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Hi, Steve.
 
I am a bit of a sceptic about the cost effectiveness of mandatory daytime running lights and their effectiveness in a sunny climate with light coloured landscape such as we have in much of Australia (and you have in Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and much of Texas).
 
There has been some great comments from the group about DRL which makes me think there is room for further investigation. And it could well be that LED lights with their intense light, long life and low current draw might be worthy of some consideration.
 
It could well be that the intelligent way forward is to incorporate DRLs into cars and leave it up to the drivers to do what they want. If a case then clearly establishes itself for their benefit, it would be possible to convince people to use them voluntarily. Failing that, mandation.
 
I recall before they made bicycle helmets here (in Oz) mandatory (causing an immediate reduction in the number of people riding bikes) about 80% of bicyclists wore them anyway. Perhaps that same sort of thing could happen with DRLs.
 
The case is much clearer for DRLs in low light environments than it is here but I for one am open to input and appreciate the trouble that people in this group have gone to in floating ideas and knowledge, even some of the more colourful sceptics.:)
 
As for more freeways,  I believe a much higher percentage of US vehicular travel is on freeways than it is here in Australia, including for metropolitan areas. From a town planning perspective, there would be widespread concerns about the traffic generation aspect of more urban freeways. I don't know what the right answer is but in Los Angeles at one stage 50% of the downtown area was for parking for people working in the remaining buildings. That may well be the reductio ad absurdum, but even if we had zero emission vehicles, the urban amenity impacts of very high levels of motorcar use may well be unacceptable and if freeways do, in fact, tend to generate traffic, that could well negate the per mile or per kilometre safety improvements of freeways in metropolitan areas above a certain minimum level.
 
Variable road pricing and improved public transport could well have more effect on the road toll than additional freeways, but I fear that would be a very difficult ask because the land use planning battle in most low density US cities was lost a long time ago. There would likely be a huge time lag as we redesign our cities to make car free or one car household living practical/desirable. And then we would have to grapple with the fear of the street exhibited by millions of people who have been hiding in low density suburbs and behind locked car doors all their lives.
 
Another huge potential for improved road safety in the US is more efficient trucks. Truck development in the US has been all but paralyzed by anti-truck interest groups including the rail lobby and CRASH which is, I believe, partially funded by the rail lobby. The US as I understand it still uses a very high percentage of 5 axle articulated vehicles at about 36.5 tonnes GCW, much as they did 25 years ago. During that time, Australian 6 axle articulated vehicles have gone from a 38 tonne GCW to 42.5 tonnes and a 45 tonne GCW is in effect over much of Australia and spreading, now. The increase was based on the use of "road-friendly" suspensions. Australia has also introduced B-doubles (politically correct jargon for B-trains) which are 25 metres long and weigh up to 68 tonnes GCW. Their efficiency has seen their widespread adoption and they have an impressive safety records. And our road-trains are carrying more weight as well, partly through the use of tri-drive prime movers and tri-axle air-suspension dollies.
 
More productive heavy vehicles mean fewer of them. Fewer heavy vehicles mean fewer front ends to hit things. Simplistic but not far off the mark. I'd suggest more productive heavy vehicles might be worthy of consideration for improving road safety in the US. We're going pretty well on it here in Oz, and funny thing is we are using mostly US sourced heavy equipment at weights US operators only dream about.
 
Cheers,
 
Bob Murphy
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Only 30 percent of our VMT is on motorways.


I agree with Peter that highway deaths are a major issue in America.
We lose around 41,000 people per year in highway fatalities, the equivalent of about 14 world trade center attacks per year.  I can't believe there isn't a rebellion considering this fact.  Americans value their freedom, however, and they consider the ability to drive a basic freedom that is worth the risk of being involved in a fatal accident.

I have been looking for things that we could do as engineers in order to lower these numbers, and Peter's solution of building more "motorways" seems like a very reasonable solution.  We have achieved significant reductions from the historical high of about 58,000 fatalities per year primarily due to tougher laws on drinking and driving..... but those laws seem to have reached their point of maximum impact, and fatalities are now beginning to show a slight increase.

We have improved highway geometric designs, improved guard rails, and certainly improved the vehicles themselves.  Until I read Peter's post, I thought the only solution was increasing the requirements for driver education, particularly for those involved in their first accident.  As insurance rates prove, once you are involved in one accident, you are much more likely to be involved in a second (or more.)  I still think this is a good idea.

I'm sorry to have to question Peter's number about only 30% of the traffic being on motorways.  As I looked at the national highway statistics a few years ago. I recall more like 70% of VMT is on the interstates and arterials, with about 30% on local roads. This was the opposite of the total mileage -- 70% local miles, and 30% arterial and interstate.  (I used these numbers to support the need for better pavement management on local roads.)

Because of this, I also have to question the impact Peter stated of 5,000 lives saved.  My friend, even if we only save 1 life, we've done good! (to quote an environmentalist who was willing to spend an extra five billion $ to guarantee a perfectly safe emission level of a rare pollutant.)

I will side with Peter and others on the issue of DRL, however.  I use my lights when necessary to see or to be seen.  I just purchased a new car last month, and the headlights will come on automatically if the lighting conditions warrant (as long as the switch is in the automatic position.)  Don't the drivers have some responsibility in this?  Isn't this part of improved driver education?  Isn't this a more effective solution?

Best Regards,
Steve Mueller
Denver, Colorado, USA
 

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