Well said, I agree. Perhaps it's because common sense isn't as common as we'd like to think. Phillip Leeds Business Planner Business Development Branch RTA Operations Tel: 02 9218 3513 Fax: 02 9218 6376 email: [log in to unmask] (formerly involved in vehicle safety and regulation, particularly heavy vehicles) -----Original Message----- From: Robert A. Douglas [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2002 11:34 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Daytime running lights I cannot believe the amount of email traffic this has generated. Why is so much being made from this? Clearly, with lights on, a vehicle is more easily seen, even in daylight. We need to argue this? And what is the problem with having them on, are people afraid they'll have to put another shilling in the electric meter or something? The ONLY sensible complaint I've heard about cars running with headlights on during the day is that it makes MOTORCYCLES (which typically run with lights on) somewhat less visible themselves. R.A. Douglas Robert A. Douglas, BASc(CE), PhD, PEng Senior Lecturer, Director of Studies (Forest Engineering) geotranz - Natural Resources Geotechnique and Transportation Engineering New Zealand School of Forestry University of Canterbury Private Bag 4800 Christchurch, New Zealand tel +64-3-364 2117 fax +64-3-364 2124 http://www.fore.canterbury.ac.nz/ IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachment to it is intended only to be read or used by the named addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistaken transmission to you. If you receive this e-mail in error, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or use any part of this e-mail if you are not the intended recipient. The RTA is not responsible for any unauthorised alterations to this e-mail or attachment to it.