You will, Suzanne, also be pleased by the OST's response to the MPs. (See earlier messages.) "We believe that OST's role through providing both funding and leadership is to identify and promote good practice in science communication, to undertake periodic studies such as public attitude surveys that assist the science communication community to better understand their audiences and target their activities, and to assist the diverse science communication community to develop collaborations, networks and partnerships." Things seem to be shaping up rather well. MK -----Original Message----- From: psci-com: on the public understanding of science [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Suzanne King Sent: 20 December 2002 12:01 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Not happy with the BA study Dear all People Science & Policy Ltd would say this wouldn't we but the Geological Society's response to the BA's report also says: "In the Society's view the only activity recommended that would be of any real value is the BA's suggestion that the OST fund regular surveys of the public to determine their attitudes to science and its practitioners in as much detail as possible. The OST/Wellcome report 'Science and the Public' was a landmark in understanding public attitudes to science, and a salutary (and highly positive) lesson to scientists about their position in society. It needs to be repeated at regular intervals, and refined, because if the message finally gets through, it will help stop a major problem with science 's communication - namely, the unfounded view among scientists that everyone hates them, and the wholly unhelpful dog-in-manger attitude to the media that this creates." And: "Science is interesting to the public whenever events dictate a news agenda that impinges upon scientific subjects. To that extent, and that extent only, can most people be expected to care about science." Education is different. Merry Xmas and a happy New Year. Suzanne and Mark Dr Suzanne King Director People Science & Policy Ltd Hamilton House, Mabledon Place, London WC1H 9BB Direct line: 020 7554 8636 Mobile: 07961 149 558 www:peoplescienceandpolicy.com Company registration no. 3891609 This email and any attachments are confidential and may be the subject of legal privilege. Any use, copying or disclosure other than by the intended recipient is unauthorised. 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The views expressed in this email are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of People Science & Policy Ltd. -----Original Message----- From: psci-com: on the public understanding of science [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of MK Sent: 20 December 2002 09:53 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Not happy with the BA study One organisation is underwhelmed by the BA study: http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/template.cfm?name=1055 To quote: "It is perhaps not surprising that when a body like the British Association is asked to suggest a range of actions, its answers will be couched in terms of those things that the organization in question tends to do. This lies at the root of what we perceive to be the problem with this document. The question is - will the mapping exercises, conferences and consultations outlined ... produce practical answers, or are they more likely to merely subsidise further the growing Public Understanding of Science (PUS) industry?" And another bit: "Much of the PUS industry however has become more part of the problem than the solution. While the people who really do the work (journalists, public relations officers and a small number of media-savvy scientists) have been getting on with things largely unaided, a second group of people has been absorbing a large slice of institutional attention and government money to little effect." And a Happy Christmas to all my reader. MK _______________________________________________________________________ Michael Kenward / Phone: +44 (0)1444 400568 Fax: 401064 / Science Writer & Stuff / Genetically modified words for sale ********************************************************************** 1. To suspend yourself from the list, whilst on leave, for example, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the following message: set psci-com nomail 2. To resume email from the list, send the following message: set psci-com mail 3. 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