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Actually, Anny, nobody seems to do 68. The line on Guy Debord was he topped himself, simple as that. But it turns on what you have hard-wired into your skull from then. For all of me, it was the moment they blew away Rudi D with a shotgun. Worse things happened, but that was Exit The Lost Leader. Robin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anny Ballardini" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:55 AM Subject: Re: A pome ... if that is the truth he deserves it, what i meant in my previous message is that they killed him, don't ask me who they are, to this i added some remarks of my personal history with reference to a wound i am not able to heal that's about it, Robin, i am dealing with a concentrate of ammonia for the very first balcony i've ever had in my life and the sun is shining, i can't describe the sense of happiness this little outward protraction in the air gives me in this moment, which i already "see" full of flowers, rosemary, sage and all the best perfumed herbs, "drawers (would say Dalì)" full of imagination on sale... nice sunday, anny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Hamilton" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> I don't think the Conspiracy Theory runs that he was pushed, either literally or metaphorically, Anny. Mostly the blah floating around the Situationist lists is that it was a joke, and he's sitting around somewhere in Provence drinking chardonnay and giggling quietly to himself. Robin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anny Ballardini" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 4:02 PM Subject: Re: A pome ... I can't but trust my intuition and it says, No. On the other side I would also like to add that my friend, a doctor in medicine, who commited suicide, did not do it willingly but was pushed to do it, again Antonin Artaud was excellent in his book: "Van Gogh, a suicide of society", and can explain much better than me what I mean. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Hamilton" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 4:02 PM Subject: Re: A pome ... "La societé du spectacle" read in my twenties, there was this little book-shop down town Florence that had it, very few knew and know of the Situationists, anny Few enough even now. But (no one seems to pick up on this) +did+ Guy Debord commit suicide? Honest, I don't go a total bundle on conspiracy theory, but surely this was just a little bit too manifestation pat? Hm??? Robin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Hamilton" <[log in to unmask]> ... ... I thought at least when I ran detox, that I'd get out of the shadow of The Ghost of Guy Debord. but what was the second thing that Jim-the-Self-Mutilator said to me? (after we'd finished trying to reconstruct the beginning of "The Mask of Anarchy" from memory) -- _The Society of the Spectacle_. Gee uz a break, mate. Robin (Incidentally, what's the call on Guy just now -- did he commit suicide or didn't he?) "The Revolution will come when the last bourgeois is hung from the guts of the last beaurocrat" -- and I didn't even know that was a Situationist slogan when I was publishing in NiK (sic) in Glasgow in the sixties. Makes you ponder, but ... R2. ---- Original Message ----- From: "Árni Ibsen" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 2:11 AM Subject: Re: A pome ... The principissa Di did occur to me, sorry, Robin, but then I whisked her image away. Then I enjoyed it. A fine poem. 'Give us words' is the demand made of writers today, and because of 'today' incapable of utterance. Best Árni -- Árni Ibsen Stekkjarkinn 19, 220 Hafnarfjördur, Iceland tel.: +354-555-3991 e-mail: [log in to unmask] http://www.centrum.is/~aibsen/ on 11/28/02 1:32 PM, Robin Hamilton at [log in to unmask] wrote: > LOOKING BACKWARDS: 30 YEARS > > (For Diana, who was 4) > > The workers demand their voice - give us > Words, they exclaim - cry utter speak say. > > Instead we created a slogan - "You are not > Living your lives, we are": This is a Sit- > uationist statement. Please hand in your > > Party cards at the exits. Door Zero: this is > Ideology - the children play manifestation, > Startle the gendarmes. Broken heads and blood > On the cobbles - epicentre of the phenomenon. > > The circles spread and spread and it was usually > Posture. Nothing much happened, after all - > Cambridge was fun, but trivial. > > Then the wave crossed the Atlantic, and > There were four dead children at Kent State U. > > Robin Hamilton ...... 9/9/98 > > > The date it was written has to be part of it. > > Robin