Even for native English speakers, emails can be minefields of misreading, Erminia. But that misunderstanding is very interesting. Does this mean Italians are normally rude? :) Cheers Alison >Meeting in town > >Today, Sunday, at the Quod Bar in Oxford, I met a couple of English >artists, one a poet of my Backroom Poets Group, the other a novelist, who >had asked the poet if he could introduce me to her to help her with the >translation - from English into Italian - of five pages of idiomatic >sentences to be attributed to an Italian guy in her novel. >The sentences were mainly hard swear words and idiomatic expressions that >she hoped to have vividly rendered into true Tuscan Italian, so ….there we >sat, for two hours, translating verbal brutality out loud from English >into Italian. > >At the end of these two hours work session - imagine the three of us >swearing in English and Italian in the very middle of this posh >Oxford/Italian Bar restaurant, with waitresses and guests horrified about >the severity of our repertoire of obscene words – the novelist, satisfied >and relieved, greeted me with gratitude and left. > >But before she left, I told the two English writers about the >misunderstanding caused on Poetryetc by me writing to David why he and >Alison couldn’t just be “normal” to each other (me alluding to the fact >that all e-mails from him to her seemed quite over honeyed and over >polite, almost courteous, a comment that was meant to be amicably teasing, >nothing more and nothing else…) > >So, the poet and the novelist explained to me what are the implications >around the issue of the word “normality” in the English speaking world. I >found these implications very complicated and explained what the idiom “to >be normal” meant in Italian: “be un-courteous”. > >It was good to have two Oxford writers explaining to me what the >misunderstanding was caused by: idioms are the real obstacles to >communications, at times. > >Erminia -- Alison Croggon Home page http://www.users.bigpond.com/acroggon/ Masthead http://au.geocities.com/masthead_2/