Yes, please quote sources. Otherwise it comes off much too much like an Art Bell "open line" call in rumor: frightening, but so often without base. Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Candice Ward" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:12 PM Subject: Re: U.S. Concentration Camps FEMA and the Rex 84 Program Mindfight: what I found most "disturbing" here was the total anonymity of the webpage you directed us toward. It's one thing to take all information from media and government sources with a large grain of salt, but quite another to swallow whole _and publicize_ information that comes from who-knows-where (Ray Bradbury's new book, maybe?). Try to be a bit more discriminating, willya? This sort of thing just wastes our time and insults our intelligence. Thanks--Candice on 4/4/02 5:46 PM, mindfight at [log in to unmask] wrote: > Dear Poets, > > Please consider this disturbing information > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > from: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html > > excerpt: > > The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from > the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of > the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest > of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan > facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 > million people. > > **************************************************************************** > * > > > full text: > > There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and > ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by > full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by > FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be > implemented in the United States. > The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of > illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded > up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military > bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons. > > Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will > be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. > Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the > program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the > federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and > thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already > listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this > operation. > > The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from > the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of > the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest > of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan > facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 > million people. > > > A person named Terry Kings wrote an article on his discoveries of camps > located in southern California. His findings are as follows: > > Over the last couple months several of us have investigated three soon-to-be > prison camps in the Southern California area. We had heard about these sites > and wanted to see them for ourselves. > > The first one we observed was in Palmdale, California. It is not operating > as a prison at the moment but is masquerading as part of a water facility. > Now why would there be a facility of this nature out in the middle of > nowhere with absolutely no prisoners? The fences that run for miles around > this large facility all point inward, and there are large mounds of dirt and > dry moat surrounding the central area so the inside area is not visible from > the road. There are 3 large loading docks facing the entrance that can be > observed from the road. What are these massive docks going to be loading? > > We observed white vans patrolling the area and one came out and greeted us > with a friendly wave and followed us until we had driven safely beyond the > area. What would have happened had we decided to enter the open gate or ask > questions? > > This facility is across the street from the Palmdale Water Department. The > area around the Water Department has fences pointing outward, to keep people > out of this dangerous area so as not to drown. Yet, across the street, the > fences all point inward. Why? To keep people in? What people? Who are going > to be it's occupants? > > There are also signs posted every 50 feet stating: State of California > Trespassing Loitering Forbidden By Law Section 555 California Penal Code. > > The sign at the entrance says: Pearblossom Operations and Maintenance > Subcenter Receiving Department, 34534 116th Street East. There is also a > guard shack located at the entrance. > > We didn't venture into this facility, but did circle around it to see if > there was anything else visible from the road. We saw miles of fences with > the top points all directed inward. There is a railroad track that runs next > to the perimeter of this fenced area. The loading docks are large enough to > hold railroad cars. > > I wonder what they are planning for this facility? They could easily fit > 100,000 people in this area. And who would the occupants be? > > Another site is located in Brand Park in Glendale. There are newly > constructed fences (all outfitted with new wiring that point inward). The > fences surround a dry reservoir. There are also new buildings situated in > the area. We questioned the idea that there were four armed military > personnel walking the park. Since when does a public park need armed guards? > > A third site visited was in the San Fernando Valley, adjacent to the Water > District. Again, the area around the actual Water District had fences > logically pointing out (to keep people out of the dangerous area). And the > rest of the adjacent area which went on for several miles was ringed with > fences and barbed wire facing inward (to keep what or who in?) Also, > interesting was the fact that the addition to the tops of the fences were > fairly new as to not even contain any sign of rust on them. Within the > grounds was a huge building that the guard said was a training range for > policemen. There were newly constructed roads, new gray military looking > buildings, and a landing strip. For what? Police cars were constantly > patrolling the several mile perimeter of the area. > > From the parking lot of the Odyssey Restaurant a better view could be taken > of the area that was hidden from site from the highway. There was an area > that contained about 100 black boxes that looked like railroad cars. We had > heard that loads of railroad cars have been manufactured in Oregon outfitted > with shackles. Would these be of that nature? From our position it was hard > to determine. > > In searching the Internet, I have discovered that there are about 600 of > these prison sites around the country (and more literally popping up > overnight do they work all night). They are manned, but yet do not contain > prisoners. Why do they need all these non-operating prisons? What are they > waiting for? We continuously hear that our current prisons are overcrowded > and they are releasing prisoners because of this situation. But what about > all these facilities? What are they really for? Why are there armed guards > yet no one to protect themselves against? And what is going to be the > kick-off point to put these facilities into operation? > > What would bring about a situation that would call into effect the need for > these new prison facilities? A man-made or natural catastrophe? An > earthquake, panic due to Y2K, a massive poisoning, a panic of such > dimensions to cause nationwide panic? > > Once a major disaster occurs (whether it is a real event or manufactured > event does not matter) Martial Law is hurriedly put in place and we are all > in the hands of the government agencies (FEMA) who thus portray themselves > as our protectors. Yet what happens when we question those in authority and > how they are taking away all of our freedoms? Will we be the ones detained > in these camp sites? And who are they going to round up? Those with guns? > Those who ask questions? Those that want to know what's really going on? > Does that include any of us? The seekers of truth? > > When first coming across this information I was in a state of total denial. > How could this be? I believed our country was free, and always felt a sense > of comfort in knowing that as long as we didn't hurt others in observing our > freedom we were left to ourselves. Ideally we treated everyone with respect > and honored their uniqueness and hoped that others did likewise. > > It took an intensive year of searching into the hidden politics to discover > that we are as free as we believe we are. If we are in denial, we don't see > the signs that are staring at us, but keep our minds turned off and busy > with all the mundane affairs of daily life. > > We just don't care enough to find out the real truth, and settle for the > hand-fed stories that come our way over the major media sources television, > radio, newspaper, and magazines. But it's too late to turn back to the days > of blindfolds and hiding our heads in the sand because the reality is > becoming very clear. The time is fast approaching when we will be the ones > asking "What happened to our freedom? To our free speech? To our right to > protect ourselves and our family? To think as an individual? To express > ourselves in whatever way we wish?" > > Once we challenge that freedom we find out how free we really are. How many > are willing to take up that challenge? Very few indeed, otherwise we wouldn' > t find ourselves in the situation that we are in at the present time. We > wouldn't have let things progress and get out of the hands of the public and > into the hands of those that seek to keep us under their control no matter > what it takes, and that includes the use of force and detainment for those > that ask the wrong questions. > > Will asking questions be outlawed next? Several instances have recently been > reported where those that were asking questions that came too near the > untold truth (the cover up) were removed from the press conferences and from > the public's ear. Also, those that wanted to speak to the press were > detained and either imprisoned, locked in a psychiatric hospital, > slaughtered (through make-believe suicides) or discredited. > > Why are we all in denial over these possibilities? Didn't we hear about > prison camps in Germany, and even in the United States during World War II? > Japanese individuals were rounded up and placed in determent camps during > the duration of the War. Where was their freedom? > > You don't think it could happen to you? Obviously those rounded up and > killed didn't think it could happen to them either. How could decent people > have witnessed such atrocities and still said nothing? Are we going to do > the same here as they cart off one by one those individuals who are taking a > stand for the rights of the citizens as they expose the truth happening > behind the scenes? Are we all going to sit there and wonder what happened to > this country of ours? Where did we go wrong? How could we let it happen? > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > jmp > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Pierre Reverdy > > > > "The image is a pure creation of the mind, it cannot be born from a > comparison, but comes from the bringing together of two distant realities > {.} An image is not powerful because it is brutal and fantastic, but because > the association of ideas is distant and true". > > > > "L'image est une création pure de l'esprit, elle ne peut naître d'une > comparaison, mais du rapprochement de deux réalités {.} Une image n'est pas > forte parce qu'elle est brutale ou fantastique, mais parce que l'association > des idées est lointaine est juste´. > > > > Le gant de crin {first edition 1927}, Paris, Flammarion, 1968; p. 30.