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nice one, Richard what I'd say is that partly it's the idea of America, it's psycho-cultural everywhereness, that is becoming a problema. Once, for sure, the image of the US was one of liberty, but increasingly now it's become one of dominance, a very in your face kind of presence. I am interested in free markets, Richard, but what I'd say to you is that such don't exist, the best does not win the day, what we have, in capitalist society, is a system of fake freedom, always the market is rigged, that applies to poetry too. Now now, stop claiming exclusive rights on the Net. yes, for sure, the Net started out on Pentagon computers, but the WordWideWeb was the brainchild of Tim Berners-Lee (an Englishman) at CERN (in Switzerland) , he's still its guardian angel, while if you open your PC you'll find that almost all the components were manufactured in the Far East. It's an international creation, that's part of its beauty. Which definitely includes good ole USA too. Among equals. Anyhow, what's happened to Bin Laden, he seems to have disappeared from the public rhetoric, as if he was never there? Best Dave David Bircumshaw Leicester, England Home Page A Chide's Alphabet Painting Without Numbers http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Dillon" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 5:08 AM Subject: Re: respect for english > >: > >>Question: what has the state of your stocks to do with any poetry list? > > Okay, you asked. Aren't you taking stock in me? Look, Pal, you're > not playing patty cake and you hate the Royals. The last I looked > most poets on these lists pretend to be Communist sympathisers while > aspiring for tenure at Universities supported by portfolios in B.P., > and so on. Since I am not a hypocrite, I, like Plath, as Lowell > pointed out, pull the g-string away. [Oh, I get it. I'll leave the > former in, it has its truth. Ever hear of a metaphor? Really, > David.] > > I sold Enron then bought Dynergy and Ballard. Didn't sell at the > top, felt there was something wrong with it. [The First Lady's Mum > wasn't as well informed and lost 10 K, her stake. So much for an > inside track.] > > As to Somalia, I instructed my Senator [Spectre, (R. Pa.), the one > who thought up the Magic Bullet Theory and who gave perfidious > Clinton a Scotch Vote, and, thus, his Presidency.] to ask for and get > then Defense Secretary Les Aspin's resignation. Your problematicize > America as some sort of monolithic entity, it ain't. It is, rather, > at best, a Rube Goldberg contraption which sometimes decides to fly > to the Moon to check out the Saucerians. > > You need a free market to be the best you can be, David. Given a > choice, which will never happen [because Brilliant Osman will lose] > between Erminia's Totalitarian museum and what we have here, the > vicissitudes of America's gift to you, the Internet, you'll go with > Liberty. A Liberty, I should remind you, that your ancestors [the > ones who braved the sea] put into motion out of their > disatisfactions, disatisfactions which still spur your genius. > > > > > > > > >Some interesting news over here today, Richard, Lord John Wakeham, who among > >other things was on the board of Enron, 80,000 pounds per year, as, I > >believe, a non-executive director, but who too, among his other little jobs, > >was chairman of the Press Complaints Commission, has been forced to stand > >down, altho' he swears it's only temporary, because of the Enron link. > > > >It's a lovely connection, wouldn't you say, freedom of speech and British > >domestic politics and US corrupt corporations. It could almost make one > >think we live in a world run by liars and fraudsters. Almost like a global > >Hollywood. > > > >Question: what has the state of your stocks to do with any poetry list? > > > >(N.B. I am taking it that you do understand what the Press Complaints > >Commission is. I ask this with tender solicitude, as one knows that US > >intelligence has problems with the Other, as evinced in Somalia, thank god > >for those Malaysian soldiers who rescued your special forces, despite the > >lies that are to be perpetrated in another US falsity, by a Brit director as > >well, Black Hawk Down indeed) > > > >Best > > > >Dave > > > > > >David Bircumshaw > > > >Leicester, England > > > >Home Page > > > >A Chide's Alphabet > > > >Painting Without Numbers > > > >http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Richard Dillon" <[log in to unmask]> > >To: <[log in to unmask]> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 3:57 PM > >Subject: Re: respect for english > > > > > >> Here, George, is the REAL imperialism. It all started with Imperial > >Margarine. > >> Then it expanded to the Imperial automobile, touted by Frank Sinatra > >> and Ricardo Montalban ["And it luxuriates in Corinthian leather."] > >> and topped off with the Motown pre-Hip acapella quartet, Little > >> Anthony and The Imperials, ["Tears On My Pillow"]. > >> > >> Employing these front organizations, the descendents of Alexander > >> "The Imperial" Hamilton swept over the planet, readying for that > >> fateful hour when their ancient enemy, Brilliant Osman, would strike > >> in revenge. > >> > >> Every night, Mr. Jones, with our manipulative encouragement, cries > >> into his pillow in jibbering guilt and bit-lip consternation at what > >> he and his ancestors have brought to the continuing unfoldment of > >> their belittling one-sided abusive thrill-kill use-em-up > > > tax-em-til-they-bleed steal-it-with-a-screed trick-em-with-a-meem > >> Pepsified slavery of -what?- 5, count 'em, 6 billion transmigrating > >> soul travellers. Every day, then, his stock falls and mine rises > >> because he doesn't own the ad that he reads on his own wall. > >> > >> [Outside the cave, blinding sunlight.] > > > > > > Zo! We are in agreement! Let's storm the citadels of the ultimate > > > Imperial Power: GAWD! > > > > > > Down with LaRouche! Kill Satan! Declaw the Kat! > > > > > > > > > > > > >When I sent my last mail, the spell-checker suggested that I should > >replace > >> >Kafka with KFC. Isn't that sad? > >> >______________________________________________ > >> >George Simmers > >> >Snakeskin Poetry Webzine is at > >> >http://www.snakeskin.org.uk > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > > > --