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Which title I think is a moot conjunction. I don't like to think about certain conditions of the former while re the latter I've just been seeing this very middle-aged looking guy on a pop talk program, who had receding hair dyed both blond and bright blue, whose name was Johnnie Lydon i.e. Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols, and was talking defensively about his property interests in the US and attacking the fact that ' tax-payers money' had been used to support the 'drug-crazed idiot' Ozzy Osbourne who was featured at the recent Buck Palace fest. Oh time, it slips us all along in its currents, and then we turn into what we were not were. This is obviously why Dostoevsky had problems with his trousers. After all, after wearing them for so long ..... Best Dave David Bircumshaw Leicester, England Home Page A Chide's Alphabet Painting Without Numbers http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm