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----- Original Message ----- From: "Henry Gould" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: 21 June 2002 19:14 | You yourself are being bully-like, Lawrence. In what PRECISE sense? I would like an answer I dispute that, unless opposing a USAmerican is now inherently being a bully | If you have a right to make such remarks, other certainly have the right to | counterbalance them or oppose them without being called bullies. I accuse Frederick of writing a non sequitur, not of bullying. Please don't misrepresent me On a discussion list I think there should be discussion not sloganising and such I judge Frederick's remark to have been. It suggests to me he doesn't have anything to say. Let him put a counter argument if he has one | To romanticize your remarks as the "unofficial version" is a kind of | propaganda. But I didn't Please don't misrepresent me dismissing anti-war sentiments as romantic seems to be a USAmerican cliche an unofficial versiion only I note your clever Biblical | quotations to the Buffalo list. Not intended as clever that's another dismissive cliche where a reasoned argument would have been welcome Unanswerable perhaps | No matter how Machiavellian the policy of Sharon - playing divide and | conquer, setting up his own people as victim-pawns - the policy of Hamas & | co. is just as evil if not more so. Does this mean I support | Sharon? No. It means I would look for a way out of conflict based on | mediation, understanding & compromise, rather than painting one or the | other antagonist as "the bad guys", like you do. I didn't mention Hamas. Frederick did. It is, yawn, a non sequitur. I did not paint anyone as "the bad guys". I did scoff at the idea of explaining the murder which happened today as a mistake, which it may have been, when the important issue is why they were firing tank shells anywhere near a civilian population a civilian population of someone else's country which they have invaded L | | Henry |