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I heartily agree. Information skills, like ICT skills should not be 'bolted on' but 'embedded' - as Mike states - in the learning experience. Unfortunately, this often does not happen as many tutors/lecturers themselves do not have information skills or know what is meant by them. For example, nursing students often have information skills embedded in a research module, and the institutional library may provide sessions on using subject specific databases. But the students see this as separate from their subject/practice-based learning, and do not see the reason for doing a compulsory module which they find 'hard'. I recently did a post-16 PGCE - it had an optional ICT module and a compulsory research module; neither covered information handling skills. Both were judged by most on the course to be either at the wrong level or irrelevant to tutors needs. Embedding should but often doesn't happen, unfortunately for a variety of reasons. Penny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Maguire" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: Re: DEVELOPING ICT SKILLS > Very much "the way to go", & this approach also allows one to reintroduce > relevant interest based print material. I think experienced basic literacy > tutors mutter about "embedded learning". > > Mike > > Mike Maguire > Group Librarian S & E Devon > Devon Library & Information Services > tel 01392 384223 > fax 01392 384228 > mailto:[log in to unmask] > http://www.devon.gov.uk/library/ > Unless otherwise stated the views expressed are > personal and not necessarily those of Devon County Council > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Goddard, Jocelyn - Cultural Services > > [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > > Sent: 02 August 2002 11:28 > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: DEVELOPING ICT SKILLS > > > > This is a really refreshing debate for a Friday morning! > > It seems to me that one of the best ways to encourage people to develop > > these skills would be to find out what they actually might want to do > > which > > would be done more easily or better using appropriate IT i.e in > > conjunction > > with other learning or creative projects. So IT skills could be one part > > of > > a package on Family History or Garden Design or Car Maintenance. Although > > I > > know others (with different learning styles) would be interested to try > > out > > a new electric screwdriver just to see what it can do, personally I > > wouldn't > > bother to look at one until I had a relevant task in mind. > > > > Jocelyn Goddard > > Access to Oxfordshire Project > > The Oxfordshire Museum > > Park Street > > Woodstock > > Oxfordshire > > OX20 1SN > > > > direct line 01993 814109 >