I quite agree with your views on this Jon, but am myself concerned that such material could not then be distributed more widely than intended and put to uses not intended. Given that the circumstances outlined in Ian B's e-mail are catered for, would a copyright or restriction on use notice be any good in trying to achieve that, or at least protect the organisation? After all, how would a parent feel whose childs photograph taken at school had been edited by one of the more unsavoury groups existing out there, and then circulated widely? In such unfortunate circumstances, what liability, if any would the school have if they had not placed any restriction on the use of the photograph(s)? Ian W -----Original Message----- From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Dunster, Jon Sent: 22 July 2002 14:40 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Videoing children at school Despite the lack of choice in this ... Why, other than on a 'technical point', would you want your children not to be videod or photographed while taking part in school activities ? As a parent too I can see no reason to object to this and feel that it certainly enriches their experiences being able to manipulate images on computer/video etc. I was very happy to receive a CD containing images from a recent trip, and my boy spent a long time flicking through them. It would be a sad state of affairs if parents started asking for their children to be blurred out. I'm convinced this is not what the act was created to prevent. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ticher [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 10 July 2002 17:18 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [data-protection] Videoing children at school Gail, I agree with you. I was staggered recently to get a letter from school asking for consent for my daughter to take part in an event (no problem) and saying that it was a condition of participation that photographs and video be taken to form part of a report on the project which would also go on the web (overseas transfer). I didn't think that my consent was being 'freely given' in the circumstances, and told them so in no uncertain terms. However, I didn't withhold it, because I didn't want to embarrass or disadvantage my daughter. Also, the form only came two days before the event (which had been planned for months), leaving no time to raise any queries. If the consensus is that parental consent is required, I would be grateful, as I can use that with the school and LEA. Obviously, where the photograph/video is an integral part of the course or event, the considerations would be slightly different. Paul Ticher Information Management 0116 273 8191 22 Stoughton Drive North, Leicester LE5 5UB I hereby require any recipient of this message not to use my personal data for direct marketing purposes. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gail Waters <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: 10 July 2002 15:01 Subject: Videoing children at school > I think this may have come up before but do you agree that postive consent > is required from parents? There is a project planning to do this for the > purposes of producing teacher training material and the team want to rely on > informing the parents and relying on objections being raised via an 'opt > out'. I do not feel it is good enough to rely on an 'opt out' in this > situation. 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