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I think this is clearer than everyone seems to be making it.

If a data subject submits a valid SAR disclosures must be made.  No data
that can identify any data subject other than the one submitting the SAR may
be released to the requestor.

It is not relevant whether the data subject is/is not a current or non or ex
employee, nor whether the relevant data is on computer or on paper.   The
only thing that matters is that it is indexed in a structured manner (or
retrievable in that way) in accordance with the definitions of the act.  It
could be argued that a shared surname could be such a structured index
method.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kirsty Gray [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 13 September 2002 14:09
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Internal Investigation


Brenda, I don't understand - if he's not an employee then presumably you
won't have information about him in 'structured' manual files so he doesn't
have SAR rights related to his personal data in his wife's (or anyone
else's) personnel file until 2005.

Or is it that all the information is on computer and easy to search / find?

If so, do you HAVE to disclose? Guess that depends on what information is
held, how obtained and from whom. What are the grounds that HR are using for
non-disclosure? That the information held about him was provided in
confidence by a third party?

But even then you'd have to balance common law duty of confidentiality to
that third party against his right to (a) have access to the data and (b)
prevent further processing and (c) have it corrected, if incorrect, or
details of his version of events appended etc.

If his wife / your employee made the SAR  - theoretically you'd need his
consent to disclose the bits about him to her or else delete as 3rd party!

Seems like a real can of worms, good luck! Kirsty.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Brenda Scourfield [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 13 September 2002 10:29
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Internal Investigation


We have received an SAR from the husband of an employee who is currently
the subject of an harrasment investigation. He (not an employee) has been
complained about having got involved in obstructing the person accused of
harrassment.
Apparently, he has been named in various documents, minutes of interviews
etc. Personnel are claiming that they do not need to disclose.
This afternoon, copies of all documents are being supplied to his wife (3rd
parties deleted).
Question - do we have to disclose, obviously deleting 3rd party references
if their permission to disclose has not been given ?

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