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I refer to a society that seems to have become a culture without depth of meaning and sense of being. By society I mean the aspect of modern society that relies on the products of popularist media and commerce as a source for its imagination and fantasy. Instead of individual and localized expression, we now have a vast plasma of soap operas, mechanical pop music and commodities comandeering the popular imagination, at least, and at most feelings and instincts that have been present in the human race for a long time. Not that I don't jump into consumerism myself....OF COURSE: I quite like going to the G A Y club, listening to Kylie Minogue and eying up young rent boys. Though I tend to find that I reflect on what I'm doing when I'm involved in all sorts of pursuits, especially after the third or fourth Guinness. As for Pol Pot....well I could have chosen Genghis Khan or Alexander the Great instead...or maybe MacDonalds. David Menzies ----- Original Message ----- From: "david.bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 1:36 AM Subject: Re: in fact... > Out of interest, what does " COMMERCIAL POPULARIST KA KA " actually mean? > It's not that I don't have a revulsion to the dilution and degradation of > culture that is going on, money and status rule all, even in poetry these > days, I used to like the art because of its threadbare economics, among > other things, but the open ground that it once threatened to be is fast > becoming a memory. One of the things I notice on all poetry lists I am a > member of is the lack of discussion of meaning, what seems to matter is to > be noticed. Ah what the hell. > > But as for Pol Pot, fortunately I don't wear specs, and my Brummie accent > could never be taken as a sign of intelligence, but reducing all the cities > and towns in the UK and forcing their population into the fields in > mediaeval conditions would I guess result in a rapid reduction of a > population of 58 to 60 million to about 1 to 2 million max, within a few > winters. H'm, sounds like mass murder that. > > > Best > > > Dave > > > David Bircumshaw > > Leicester, England > > Home Page > > A Chide's Alphabet > > Painting Without Numbers > > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dm" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 8:22 PM > Subject: in fact... > > > IN FACT POL POT SEEMS QUITE REFRESHING WHEN ONE LOOKS AROUND AT THE VENEER > OF COMMERCIAL POPULARIST KA KA IN LONDON. > >