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Geraldine I like the irony of the revised thread title: 'no subject' being exactly what the English aren't! As in not legally citizens, despite the proclamations of our passports. We all 'belong' to the Crown. There are no 'inalienable rights' in this here land. But this matter of representative anthologies, oh yes, I'm still pondering it, this closely living together country has such a weird frigidity lurking in its heart, the distance of class is the other side of its proximities of population. I dunno, I still can't formulate an adequate response to the issues your posts have raised, I'm all too aware that they exist, but what to do? what to say? Best Dave David Bircumshaw Leicester, England Home Page A Chide's Alphabet Painting Without Numbers http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geraldine Monk" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:31 AM Subject: re 'no subject' meaning The English Sorry not to get back to you folks sooner and thanks for your thoughts ( a snap decision to rip up my cellar before xmas was probably more rash than snappy but the last alien life form I saw down there - well I really dread to think what it was but I wish I hadn't seen it (x-rated description) also I dread more the fact that it is living with me - all I can say is that it was born in England and here I hope it will die - soon). I suppose Ian has certainly discouraged any latent desire I may have had to see how an English anthology would pan out. It's one thing being excluded from another country's anthology but quite another to be excluded from your own! (As indeed most of us on this list would probably be if there was an English Anth - you can see it now, Us: 'Move over Motion, let us in' - Motion: 'Fook orf yer werking class oiks you're disturbing my lemsip). It is though quite an oddity that England is probably the only country in the world that couldn't have its own anth. So there's a good subject for a phd 'Why the English can never has a poetry Anthology'. Maybe with the subtitle 'Who cares?' Keep talking kids - I'm listening inbetween life studies and the cellar crusades. Best to all you little Earthlings, Without boundaries, G.