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Hi Mark - I thought you'd vanished into a back hole!

Just a quick reply on one point.  I have on user who has no voicing - he
speaks in a what I can only describe as a  hoarse shout.  He was determined
to use voice and was working with the pilot navigating through the menus
using "next" and "OK". His breath control wasn't adequate for him to say eg.
"channel 5" within the allowable time window. I need to follow up to see how
he is doing.

Is no-one else in the UK using voice recognition for EC?

Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist
Bioengineering Department
Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary
Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ
Tel 01482 675928, fax 01482 675750

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> Dear All
>
> I'm glad Barry has started this line of discussion. I would be very
> interested if people could share their experience of speech recognition
> environmental control systems, specifically:
>
>  - how frequent are the spurious activations from extraneous noise? does
> putting them in sleep mode help?
>
>  - what level of recognition are people getting from these devices in
> 'real' situations?
>
>  - what types and what proportion of people find these devices acceptable
> and what are their reasons for accepting/rejecting them?
>
>  - do these devices work for people with speech problems (I'm specifically
> interested in severe dysarthria)and what level of recognition is possible?
>
> has anyone done any rigorous testing of these devices?
>
> I'd be grateful for your views/experience
>
> Mark
>
> p.s. you may be interested in a research project we are running on speech
> recognition and dysarthria on http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~pdg/stardust/
>
>
> Professor Mark Hawley
> Barnsley District General Hospital NHS Trust
> Gawber Road
> Barnsley S75 2EP
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> Subject: Re: voice recognition for "confused of another city
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>
> Alan
> My experience of voice recognition is that you need to be fairly clued up
> to
> use it.  (in fact rather determined really).  People feel strange speaking
> commands into a microphone - this might be worse for someone with
> dementia.
>
>
> Also the error rate is more important.  You need to know what to do  when
> it
> mis-recognises, in this case dialing the wrong person. I've also found
> that
> with the Pilot, unless you send it to sleep , it will recognise the odd
> extraneous noise.  It is infuriating for the user to be watching
> Coronation
> Street, the Pilot recognises someone shouting outside and turns over to
> bbc2.  The user then gets frustrated and their voice tone changes, making
> recognition even worse. And if the user's voice tone changes when trying
> to
> wake it up, then they're really stuck!
>
> Having said all this, I ought to say  that I still think voice recognition
> is good for the right person.  The user just needs to be clear about their
> error correction strategies.
>
> Does anyone have contradicting experience?
>
> Barry Taylor, Clinical Scientist
> Bioengineering Department
> Tulley Medical Physics Building, Hull Royal Infirmary
> Anlaby Road, Hull HU3 2JZ
> Tel 01482 675928, fax 01482 675750
>
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> > From:         Roger Orpwood[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
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> > Sent:         21 November 2002 09:32
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> > Subject:      Re: voice recognition for "confused of another city
> >
> > We have been using picture phones for people with dementia. They look
> and
> > feel just like an ordinary phone but they have largish buttons into
> which
> > you slot a passport photo sized picture. The user just has to pick up
> the
> > phone and touch the picture of the person they wish to ring. From the
> > point
> > of view of people with dementia they are great because the amount of new
> > learning needed is very limited, and they are interacting with a piece
> of
> > equipment that is similar to what they have used for communicating in
> the
> > past. They are only about L22. We have 40 under evaluation as part of an
> > EU
> > project and they are looking good.
> >
> > Roger Orpwood
> >
> > Dr Roger Orpwood
> > Bath Institute of Medical Engineering
> > University of Bath
> > c/o Wolfson Centre
> > Royal United Hospital
> > BATH  BA1 3NG
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> > fax: +44(0)1225 824111
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