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Very useful - thanks Kevin. Liz mailto:e.halls Liz Halls, Planning Officer (HE Funding) The Open University Walton Hall Milton Keynes MK7 6AA Tel 01908 655949 Fax 01908 858581 > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Clifton [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 4:09 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Changing a course's price group > > Dear All > > At Derby we are reconsidering the classification of certain programmes for > Media and Sports. Back in 99 when these cost centres were introduced they > did not meet the criteria set. However, following changes to the > validation and content we now believe that they do meet the criteria. > > After contacting HEFCE they told us that if we met the criteria we could > change their Price Group banding and return them in HESES at the higher > band. We did not need to gain approval but may be asked to justify large > changes in Price Group splits. > > They also said that we would not receive any additional funds if we > remaining within the +/-5% tolerance band. They said that even if it moved > us outside of this we would be unlikely to receive additional funds. > > > > Kevin Clifton > Administrative Manager, AIS > University of Derby > Kedleston Road > Derby > DE22 1GB > > Tel : 01332 591065 > Fax : 01332 597754 > e-mail : [log in to unmask] > > > >>> [log in to unmask] 12/07/02 15:19:55 >>> > Liz > > We at York St John approached the funding council about our Psychology > classification which as you perhaps know varies between price groups D and > B > across the sector. The assignment to price group was based on an > assessment > of each institution by the funding council a number of years ago. Since > investing in the provision further we felt that there was a case for > receiving a percentage of price group B funding (currently it is all D). > The > funding council however were unwilling to consider this proposal. The best > that they could offer was that if we decided to bid for ASNs in Psychology > we could possibly ask for them in B and not D. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Oldham [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: 12 July 2002 11:21 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Changing a course's price group > > > Liz, > > I've no direct experience - but if the intention is to get additional > HEFCE funding, I wouldn't hold out too much hope. This follows from our > experience at King's when in successive years German and Spanish, > followed by French, were reclassified by HEFCE as being in price group C > rather than D. As we were still within the plus or minus 5% of standard > resource allowed for Teaching, no funding adjustment was forthcoming. > > Best wishes, > > Brian > > > On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:03:04 +0100 Liz Halls <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Does anyone have any experience of successfully submitting a case to the > > HEFCE for changing the price group of a set of courses following changes > to > > the content of those courses? I'd be grateful for any info. > > > > Liz Halls > > Planning Officer (HE Funding) > > The Open University > > -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- > Brian Oldham > Management Data Analyst > Finance Department > King's College London > Room 7.22 > James Clerk Maxwell Building > 57 Waterloo Road > London SE1 8WA > > Tel: 020 7848 3850 > Fax: 020 7848 3356