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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > Is Saint Martin in fact the patron of France? I > thought it was Saint Denis. Don't we have to distinguish between the patron saint of (the realm of) France and the patron saint of the Royal House ? Surely St Denys is the patron saint of the French monarchy ? Esp. after the standoff at Reims in 1124 when - according to tradition, says she hastily - the oriflamme was paraded for the first time. The battle-cry of the French Kings leading their troops to battle was "Montjoye-Saint-Denys". BTW Interesting that the Oriflamme seems to have survived the French Revolution as the symbol of the spirit of France even tho its monarchy had gone. Its last manifestation seems to date from c. 1913 or at least that is the date I would ascribe to what I saw in the Chapel of St Louis in the Abbey of St-Denys a few months back.... Brenda M. C. ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html