Like I have said before, the best place to train for prehospital is outside, in the wind and the rain. My very first BASICS call out was a reminder of how lucky I had been in Hospital - and of how to do it outside. Basic training in skills in Hospital (controlled). advanced training preferably outside in adverse conditions - this is why I advocate the so called "master class" type course. To keep up the skills of experienced pre-hosp docs. I'll sign up for one tommorrow if it becomees available. The two arenas are really quite different. I want to how everyone else does it and if I'm doing it right. Iain __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1