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Copyright I should report that we had an 'interesting' experience with CANMORE. We felt secure on copyright because of all the arguments that you have put forward and being used to working in what is effectively an academic environment. We were, however, pursued by an author who happened also to be a lawyer. We had quoted from a number of books by him, and others, that were largely gazetteer type of publications. They were fully referenced and acknowledged in the usual way in the database. The argument was that they constituted a considerable percentage of each book and that we had 'published' on the Internet without permission. Even though the information was divided up between individual site records and we could prove that only a small proportion had been accessed by a handful of users we were advised by the Scottish Office solicitors to settle the matter by paying a negotiated copyright fee to the authors. We have eliminated quotation in the database from these and other sources, as a result, and have sought copyright permission in other cases. We were advised to settle rather than to pursue this in court, though I would have liked to know what judicial opinion would have been. I have run the problem passed a number of lawyers including the professor of copyright law at Edinburgh University and can only conclude that is is a very grey and untested area. Good luck! >>> [log in to unmask] 07/16/01 01:59pm >>> Hello all Two responses in one..... HLF: The Warwickshire SMR bid, which was accepted in Feb 2001 took about 1 year to complete and then six months of correspondence with HLF in the post application period. However, I would reckon that the actual time would be 2.5-3 months if I had worked on it solidly. A couple of other points I would like to make. I managed to fit the application to a project I had been thinking about for some time and this made the process less painful. The recent email discussion gives the impression that the HLF will only accept bids for the full amount of £100,000 and that all projects must involve web enabling an SMR and I am sure this is not the case. Non-internet HLF projects could broaden the audience to an SMR in other exciting ways. Copyright: The Warwickshire HLF Project aims to include the descriptive text for each record within our website but I do not think this presents a copyright problem for the following reasons - We do not plagiarise other works, we use the information to develop our records and include the reference as one does within an academic essay or other publication. We are able to identify the original source reference for each part descriptive text. We are not trying to claim the original work as our own. We intend to use images within the website and this is slightly more tricky but we will only use those that we hold the copyright for or are able to obtain formal agreement to use from the copyright holder. Copyright is a difficult area and my understanding of the position may be wrong but the HLF has not raised copyright as an issue and neither did their expert advisors at the NMR. I have more problems understanding what proportion of an OS map I can supply to a member of the public for research purposes. Emma Jones Warwickshire SMR Officer ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **********************************************************************