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Chris Laning <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>I know this is an elementary question, but what is the current consensus (if
any) on what the Oriflamme actually looked like? Was there just one, or were
there many, and if many, were they all alike? 


Dear Chris,

i have a firm policy of not trying to answer elementary questions, due to
their extreme difficulty.  plus, i don't know.  it was just, you know, your
basic Origlamme shape, i suppose.  and, certainly at this distance in time all
Oriflammes look alike to the unitiated.

in addition to Jim's article, the following (also courtesy of Jim) might be of
some help :

- Laura Hibbard Loomis, "The Oriflamme of France and the War-Cry 
'Monjoie' in the Twelfth Century," in Dorothy Miner, ed., Studies in 
Art and Literature for Belle da Costa Greene (Princeton, 1954), pp. 67-82

- Charles J. Liebman, Jr., "Un sermon de Philippe de Villette, Abbe 
de Saint-Denis, pour la levee de l'oriflamme," Romania, vol. 68 
(1944-45), 444-70

- Philippe Contamine, "L'oriflamme de Saint-Denis aux XIVe et XVe 
siecles: Etude de symbolique religieuse et royale," Annales de l'Est, 5e ser.,
vol. 25, no. 3 (Nancy, 1973), 179-244

- H.L. Adelson, "The Holy Lance and Hereditary German Monarchy," The Art
Bulletin, vol. 48 (1966), 177-91

- C. Gaier, "Le role militaire des reliques et l'etendard de saint 
Lambert dans la principaute de Liege," Le moyen age, vol. 72 (1966), 
235-49
      
- Nigel Morgan, "The Signification of the Banner in the Wilton Diptych," in
Dillian Gordon, Lisa Monnas and Caroline Elam, eds, The Regal Image of Richard
II and the Wilton Diptych (London, Harvey Miller, 1998?), 179-88,
326-32


somewhere in there, maybe.....

bonne chance.

christopher



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