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Good experience. While our own scheme in Lincolnshire has also dipped hands in pockets to help training, few other schemes have the huge resources of MAGPAS, generated and husbanded by years of good stewardship and publicity under Neville Silverstone's hand. I don't have an answer for you Rod: just more questions. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Accident and Emergency trainee list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Roderick Mackenzie Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 8:17 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Funding for pre-hospital training (was Intubation and IV access) Robbie wrote: the problem with pre-hospital training is lack of funding. My recent experiences lead me to disagree with this. My local immediate care charity provides perhaps the highest level of training and equipment support to volunteer doctors in the UK. By this I mean initial induction training (driving, safety at scene and PHTLS), comprehensive training library for DipIMC/FIMC prep, funding for exam (if successful), 500 pound annual training grant for recognised continuation training, free attendance at BASICS conference, several PGEA/CME approved training opportunities throughout the year and even, in certain circumstances, locum costs to allow people to get to training opportunities, courses and hospital/theatre sessions. All equipment, consumables and drugs are supplied and maintained free of charge. We have thrown a great deal of money at providing a comprehensive package of training. The problem is uptake. Excuses are the usual. Future is a specialist immediate care doctor pool with a specified (? Contractual) training obligation. Now there's a can of worms. Rod.