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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Thanks Tom. I've got Burchard's Diary on the Court of the Borgia, but I'll have to look for the other. Much appreciated! Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Izbicki" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [M-R] The Death Hammer > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Have you checked Agostino Patrizzi's Ceremoniale, reprinted by Gregg in the > 1960's? Also, the diaries of the papal masters of ceremony? John > Burchard's is edited in Rerum Italicarum Scriptores, 2nd series. Both > cover a period later than that on which Paravicini focused. > Tom Izbicki > > At 08:40 PM 3/25/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > > >I'm not sure if this is medieval, but I'm hoping someone on the list may > >know if it is. > > > >When a pope dies the camerlengo uses a silver hammer to bap the pope on the > >forehead three times, saying his Christian name as he does so. When the pope > >doesn't answer, only THEN is he considered dead. This ritual is used today. > > > >However, in his book "The Pope's Body," Paravicini-Bagliani does not make > >reference to this custom, nor have I seen it referred to in any of my death > >books dealing with medieval/Rennaisance religion, or the medieval papacy. > > > >Would anyone know the origins of this custom or where I may be able to find > >out more about it? > > > >Many thanks in advance, > > > >Wendy Reardon > > > >********************************************************************** > >To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > >to: [log in to unmask] > >To send a message to the list, address it to: > >[log in to unmask] > >To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > >to: [log in to unmask] > >In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > >[log in to unmask] > >For further information, visit our web site: > >http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: join medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: leave medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/medieval-religion.html