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Not total uniformity of liturgy. Some rites existed post Trent, some still do. The orders with a pre Tridentine rite of their own for 200 years could keep it. Some still exist (e.g. Carthusian) some disappeared (e.g. Dominican). I understand there is interest amongst the Dominicans to restore their rite. Some local rites also persist notably the various Eastern rites and the Ambrosian (Milanese) Interestingly the Dominican church in Newcastle has a weekly Tridentine mass, although it would not have been the pre Vatican II rite there! -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Martin [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:49 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: "Tridentine" & "Triduum" Tridentine comes from the Latin form of Trent/Trient, i.e., the Council of Trent, 1545-1563. The "tridentine Church" or "rite" is an informal use of the Council of Trent's legislation to demarcate the early modern and modern character of the Catholic Church, when international uniformity (e.g., in liturgy) corresponded to the rise of natiionalism and the resultant pressure for national (i.e., no longer catholic, meaning universal). Triduum means "three days" and refers to the holiest time of the Christian year, from Holy Thursday through Easter Sunday. Dennis Martin >>> [log in to unmask] 02/08/01 07:43AM >>> Hail numerology afficionados. I have a pair of questions related to the number 3, viz., I have seen references in a number of messages in this list to "Tridentine" (e.g., the "post-Tridentine church", the "pre-Tridentine world," &c. Also to the "Triduum" (the latter in the context of the liturgical calendar, esp. Passover, Easter and the Annunciation). These are both terms beyond my ken, and none of my sources, alas, explain their meaning. Would some kind soul(s) enlighten me? --Christopher