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Have any of the members run across the phrase "ad abolendam memoriam" in accounts of ecclesistical judgments? Bruce Brasington. Tom Izbicki wrote: > Bruce, please post the bibliographic data on the Landau festschrift. I > want to get it for our library. > Tom Izbicki > > At 02:44 PM 12/8/2000 -0600, you wrote: > >Thanks for your message. I'd also add that Martin Brett and I, as we've worked > >the last 4 years on this edition, have seen more and more--or perhaps, more > >honestly put--felt more and more the presence of an Ivonian circle. The > >problematic Arsenal Collection is certainly one indication of this. His > >article > >in the recently-published Festschrift for Peter Landau, along with his > >contribution to the Proceedings of the Munich and Syracuse canon law > >congresses > >are essential as well on this topic. I've done collations against Arsenal as > >well, and will be glad to share them. Bruce. > > > >Christopher Crockett wrote: > > > > > Bruce Brasington <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > >As for Sprandel, received wisdom remains Beauvasis. Lynn Barker in her > > 1988 > > > UNC dissertation would treat this; Kimberly LoPrete has also talked about > > > Ivo's background. But I've never read nor seen anything to suggest > > > that the Chartres connection is anything more than "possible". > > > > > > many thanks. > > > > > > i'd rather suspected that that was the case --i was certainly never able to > > > find any local connection whilst trolling through the Chartres > > documents, and > > > the name "Ivo" is not at all common in the namengut[en] of the local > > gentry, > > > though i *believe* that it is found Up North (cf. the families which W.M. > > > Newman discusses in his _Seigneurs de Nesle_). > > > > > > best from here, > > > > > > christopher > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1