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Got to say I'm surprised too, and, as you know, the earlier the sample the better when it comes to forensic blood sampling. Although as an A/E guy and a Polis surgeon I think it's wierd that a cas blood sample can't be used in court but a different sample has to be taken at a later stage for evidential purposes. I would have thought it would be more humane to do all the blood work at the same time (after explaining to the patient and keeping a sample for them). Is this admissable in England ? Iain ( I've never had any probs getting near patients either) In ayrshire we make a point of working with the A/E people - we need A/E facilities for "stuffers" these days anyhow. (Jer - how do you lot get on with those in your area) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/