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A very useful article is: Vigne, J-D 1992 The meat and offal weight method and the relative proportion of ovicaprids in the meat diet of the north-west Mediterranean. In R. Maggi, and RNisbet, Archeologia della pastorizia nell'Europa Meridionale. Vigne gives adult carcass weights (including offal, which is of course a major resource) for 'unimproved' breeds as follows: Sheep 30kgs Cattle 400kgs Pig 130 kgs He also includes a graph to show weight increase over age, so that you can make appropriate corrections if, for example, the majority of the animals of one species were killed while juvenile, whilst those of another species were killed when mature. Annie Grant -----Original Message----- From: Jacqui Mulville [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 04 September 2001 12:53 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: meat weats etc. Can anyone offer mike help....he is not a zooarch but rather works with isotopes so any suggestions should not assume an indepth knowledge of quantification.... Having just returned from my hols I am a little too busy to help at present.... Thanks jacqui --- Begin Forwarded Message --- Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 16:31:44 +0100 From: Michael Davis <[log in to unmask]> Subject: RE: Help (again!!!!) Sender: Michael Davis <[log in to unmask]> To: 'Jacqui Mulville ' <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: Michael Davis <[log in to unmask]> Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Hi Jacqui, Thanks for the references, can I annoy you again. In order for me to calculate proportion of meat in the human diet, I need to get an average animal isotopic value. I intended to do this by just using the proportion of each animal (cow, pig, shoat) found at each site. However, what I have to go on is one faunal study from one site. I have the weight of bone found and the number of fragments. My point is that if I work on weight proportions, I will bias the data towards cattle. If I could balance the mass of bone found against mass of complete skeleton involved this may be more accurate (am I making any sense at all). Also I was going to balance it out against mass of meat potential per animal, I thought you would know this for neolithic animals (small cattle etc..). So basically do you know how much a Neolithic cow, pig, sheep and goat weigh (whole animal or whole skeleton or both?), and also roughly how much meat/milk could be acquired from each animal. Please help or point me in some direction. Cheers Mike -----Original Message----- From: Jacqui Mulville To: [log in to unmask] Sent: 7/31/01 11:17 AM Subject: Re: coprolites in caves <fwd> ---------------------- Jacqui Mulville, EH Regional Science Advisor (E. Mids) Oxford University Museum, Parks Road, Oxford OX1 3PW Tel: 01865-272996 Fax: 01865-272970