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Knowing that there are some PR type folks here, and others who desperately need, and may event want, insights into how the media work, I thought I would pass on this link to a story that appears in the Melbourne Times. http://www.canberra.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=Your%20say&story_id=74 688 If this wraps to take more than one line, you will have to glue it back together, minus any spaces at the join. It tells the tale of how Simon Grose got banned from receiving advance warning of material in Science because he broke an embargo. Then again, did he? Or is it because they cannot tell the time in Washington DC? And the cause of this kafuffle? An article about "a former ANU scientist, now at Utah, in the latest effort to date the extinction of Australia's megafauna". Another example of American cultural imperialism and insensitivity to foreigners? Or an Ozzie hoping that the yanks would ignore his little indiscretion? You judge. MK ======================================================= Michael Kenward Science, Technology, Business Writer www.michael.kenward.dial.pipex.com