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Hi david Nice to hear some of us poets are still considered dangerous. As for opening up naive users to viri. . . sounds a tad paranoid hysteric to me. Being a practising homosexual injecting drug user don't mean I will die of AIDS, for example. I thought us gay poets writing on HIV had that sort of judgement done with last decade. . . but the image of the dangerous infectious virus still persists and i find this intersting. It has just transferred to Micro$oft users. Last decade I also remember the panicking purist poetry police scrrreaming what does detective fiction have to do with poetry. Have you read Dorothy Porter's detective fiction verse novel, _The Money's Mask_? So, I think this is quite OK stuff for this list. What I do need to really thank you for is alerting me much more to how much this internet email virus stuff and computer hacking is forbidden ground, so to speak. with best wishes Chris Jones. (ps anybody who uses the user name blow and the password job on an internet porn site account is just asking to get hacked. Don't open unknown attachments on emails. Fire an email back to the address to check it, at least or throw it in the trash. . . like something from [log in to unmask] Also, this mailing list is run on an NT system which, if set up right by the network admin, should strip all attachments and html code and so there is little chance of one getting through the server. So there is really little to be concerned about. . . ) On Monday 30 April 2001 10:32, you wrote: > Okay, this is 'Poetryetc' but I think the second term in the compound is > starting to get dangerously stretched. Anyone who has a little knowledge of > the Net is likely to be aware of 'Warez' and their 'extras' but you fail to > mention that naive investigations of such territories is also likely to > open the user to a whole range of very nice and often very new viruses. I > don't have any objection to this conversation happening but would suggest > it belongs back-channel. > I also think Robert Heinlein was a meretricious writer. So I suspect your > impressions of Heinlein are not simply down to the effect of the years. > And, the 'etc' granted, the first term in this list's title is 'poetry', > something that is a little problematical in itself, and that asks of us > that we might move outside the given parlance of our days. An awkward > demand, and one that too is difficult to acount for. > Like the imagination. > > david b. >