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Hi all, Can't thank you all one by one... too much bandwidth clog. Many thanks for your most useful responses to my query. Made all the more useful since I live and write in a small isolated rural town on the borders of the New South Wales outback and simply can't ask close by friends. (No-one around here would have heard the word, I suspect.) I have fallen head over heels in love with these young rascal hackers into grokking whatever network they can find. Anyone out there into cyber-sex? (No, that isn't a pick up line . . . well you could try me) A series of sonnets is suggested titled: Grokking cybersex sonnets [and other hacking exploits] best wishes Chris Jones.