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Candice Many thanks for taking the time to do this interview and posting Matthew's poems. I was particularly taken by the interest in gothic. Matthew seems to be suggesting a gothic which is the gothic of the real. A gothic stripped of supernatural, while being also in defiance of the so-called strictures of what can be said to be realistic. A sort of gothic materialism, perhaps? I am a fan of gothic fiction and cyberpunk which I thought had gothic themes as does the British philosopher, Mark Fisher, I am currently reading. _Neuromancer_ by Gibson is more gothic then sci-fi to me. Matthew also indicates that prescriptive realism (to steal a term from Margaret Anne Doody _The true story of the novel_) still has a strong hold on the novel and how novels can be written. I was hoping to escape this hold by saying a novel is like poetry and can be a type of poetry, if you follow my attempts here to escape realist narrative forms. Perhaps this can also explain homophobia is homoeroticism. Anne Rice's Lesat can suck my bood any day. best Chris Jones. On Friday 27 July 2001 16:01, you wrote: > The power of poetry, and the reason I return to it again and again > when I'm also very drawn to fiction and would like to write another novel, > is that it's so much less tied to realism than the novel, which has to > evoke the detailed everyday texture even of its fantasy worlds. You can get > away with so much more in a poem.