this filter coffee business is a blast, I think the only way that I would like this vines idea is if wholy arbitrary decisions were made as to the 'merit' or otherwise of submissions, preferably by someone who didn't read english. One week only posts with lots f e's in would be excepted. the next only posts that purported to be from Greenland another posts that used the name of soap opera characters, another, posts with excessive misspellings and so on always changing but arbitrary hang on just a mo- isn't that more or less what we have? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/