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To Steve Duffy, He Steve, since you're acting as his cat's paw, tell Kent I, for one, don't feel "vanquished." And the charge of censorship is, as Alison says, crap. Kent behaved badly, was unwilling to work within the very broad & long-established procedures of this list & he was removed. It's too bad, he's a smart guy, though not half as smart as he thinks. jd ====================== Joseph Duemer School of Liberal Arts, 5750 Clarkson University Potsdam NY 13699 315.268.3967 [log in to unmask] http://web.northnet.org/duemer http://www.grammarbitch.com/ppp/index.html ====================== Times are bad. Children no longer Obey their parents, and everyone Is writing a book. [Cicero]