on 14/7/01 1:09 PM, Candice Ward at [log in to unmask] wrote: > Thanks, Jill--this _is_ interesting (as always with Carson), more > interesting than my question, admittedly. But I'd still like to know if the > widespread position on the "you" addressed as presumptively female is based > on case or is just another case of patriarchal androcentric dirtymindedness. Sapphos' sexual preferences, so to speak, are a matter of much debate. There is the apocryphal story of her unrequited passion for a ferryman named Plaon which led to her suicide. Some later Greek fragments claim she was "a lover of women" or similar (often in scandalised tones, I believe). There is, of course, Ovid's poem Epistle of Sappho and Phaon where she apparently gives up her previous ("shameful"?) liaisons with women for the love of a man. Modern scholars seem to go either way (as you do) and one popular theory was that she was in charge of young girls (sort of a head teacher, boarding house mistress sort of role) and, as we know, lots of small-l lesbians like to claim her. Someone with better Greek than me could maybe say if the 'you' is female. Certainly Carson, who is a classics scholar, treats the 'you' as female, as a young girl. Cheers, Jill _________________________________ Jill Jones 50 Ruby Street Marrickville NSW 2204 AUSTRALIA [log in to unmask] http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~jpjones