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Henry: > I thought the human muse figure came in with Orpheus & Eurydice. > but I guess that's still on the level of myth. And to that we could add Catullus and Clodia, Ovid and Julia, and Properitus and -- who? But these are more figures towards whom the writing of poetry is directed (analogous to the Dark Lady rather than the young Man in Shakespeare) than they are muse figures -- I'd still want to argue that something new comes in with the dolce stil nuovo. Comments, Erminia? Robin