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Michael Snider writes: <<I said nothing about the historical accuracy of the piece, or about the accuracy of its claims about poetry other than in the US -- only that the description of the current scene here seems accurate.>> If you are not willing to defend the "historical accuracy" of the Lind piece, how can it be an "accurate" description of poetry in the US? Does American poetry exist outside history? And how can one endorse the "accuracy" of assertions that are patently false, such that "professors" have "hijacked" American poetry? Especially when the only "evidence" for that claim is Lind's HISTORICAL argument that Pound & Eliot, neither of whom were professors, ruined American poetry. jd ====================== Joseph Duemer School of Liberal Arts, box 5750 Clarkson University Potsdam NY 13699 315.268.3967 [log in to unmask] http://web.northnet.org/duemer http://www.grammarbitch.com/ppp/index.html ======================