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Crikey, I really hope there was nothin' 'personal intended' - I may be white and male but being dead isn't among my ambitions. There is truth in the critique, problem is that the rhetoric of dissent itself becomes an orthodoxy, I always think of the very simple childish moral instruction: Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right. (Aside to Robin: I think the notion of those pissed-up beggars as teachers absolutely wonderful) Best Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Printmaker" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 12:10 AM Subject: Re: teaching > Taking foot out of mouth here - sorry for the > misunderstanding > > was reacting to a comment re 'white males' in the herald > article and thinking of the feminist definition of the > english canon as 'dead white males' > > nothing personal intended. > > BTW I had a similar experience to your poem 'plagiarisation' > at uni with a law essay - know how you feel. > > josephine > > "david.bircumshaw" wrote: > > > > > Ah more 'white males' but not quite dead yet ... > > > > > > > Er, I wouldn't wish death on anyone, white male or no. Don't quite 'get' the > > context of your post, Josephine. > > > > Actually, there is a partial exception to my first sentence: it was called > > TYSON and it was a MATHS teacher and a sadist - and I can get quite close to > > wishing him in the flames of Hell for all eternity, even after all these > > years. > > > > But rhetoric about 'white males' is language out of control - certainly does > > apply in some cases but not indiscriminately 'across the board'. > > > > Best > > > > Dave > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Printmaker" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:47 PM > > Subject: Re: teaching > > > > > Ah more 'white males' but not quite dead yet ... > > > > > > > > > > > > "david.bircumshaw" wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, while we're on this subject, there is a simply hilarious article > > in > > > > the Sunday Herald at: > > > > > > > > http://www.sundayherald.com/15783 > > > > > > > > which features a walk-in cameo by our very own Robin Hamilton and also > > the > > > > vile notion that Alasdair Gray's 'Lanark' is 'unreadable' - talk about > > > > heresy - I blame the teachers of English. > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > Dave > > > >