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And a lovely, quirky thing for a bridal-showering pot to read at HER own wedding IF she chooses to marry, to write poetry, and to use the first-person plural pronoun in a meditation on such collectivity as WE or MARRIAGE can bear! So, thank you, Mairead--and thank you, Erminia, Matthew, Liz, Chris, Helen(s), Doug et al.--for keeping the POETRYETC conversation going on a subject that has already been exhausted (IMHO). It's pointless and tedious to argue about such poetic usages as pronouns because we're all going to what we will in our poems regardless, and anyone who gets his/her knickers in a twist over their own or another's opinion on the matter risks making a fool over him/herself--in my eyes anyway. So, let's just change the subject, shall WE? (How persnickety should WE be over SHALL vs. WILL anyway?) Chris has proposed an interesting stimulus, and I'd rather hear what y'all think of fear and (in, of) poetry. Thanks-- Candice on 4/7/01 2:27 PM, Mairead Byrne at [log in to unmask] wrote: > Dear Douglas, > > If it's my poem you're referring to then yes -- I'd probably read it at > *my* wedding though! > > Mairead > > On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Douglas Barbour wrote: > >> On the other hand, I rather liked the light humour of the poem about >> turning into 'we' -- although it could be read, *could be*, as just a tad >> ironic about the losses implied, &, from what the original post requesting >> poems suggested, therefor not really quite the right poem to read to that >> audience. Perhaps. At least for this reader.