Erminia writes: >Generally I deeply object (I said that elsewhere on Poetryetc) >to using the personal pronoun "we" in poetry. This argument is familiar to me, but just as I felt some people were doing in the recent discussion of speech / writing, it seems to me you're exaggerating it to the point of self-parody. Not all uses of the word are coercive - most of the time they're simply factual. If you dismiss every use of 'we' you'll get rid of half the poems ever written. (And before you say good riddance, think for a moment of the consequences when someone else takes a blowtorch to what's left for the sake of the next critical fad.) Pronouns are always problematic in poetry because of the oddly impersonal nature of text itself, but I gotta use words when I talk to you. I do think the question of community and the extent to which it can be enacted in poetry is a very important one. Poets need to ask themselves when it's appropriate to use 'we'. But to give up and say never strikes me as a kind of kneejerk nihilism that won't get us any nearer the solution. (Sorry - did I say *us*?) Best wishes Matthew