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Erminia wrote: "As for my doubts about your ability to blush for modesty... I have lived in honey England long enough to know that when English men blush is only for sexual arouse -ment. For the rest: well.it is all a mannerism: this is what it appears to be: people here learn that to be accepted they have to understate themselves: so here you have the wide range of idioms connected to shyness, nervousness of the others, bashfulness of one's merits. A pose, come on. Matter of fact: English are a very proud people: warriors. But warriors that have learned - because of King Arthur and his courtly manners - to be Manneristic. Oh, yes, you know, here in England - before you open your mouth , you have to suppose that people would - at your words - blush, be terribly embarrassed, resulting in humiliation and resentment. It is all a pose: I do not understand why you do not admit it: matter of fact, you are the proud race. And your faces are made of stone, if not granite." Erminia, I deal no more in racial stereotypes than I do in those of gender. This is tosh. The only Court I've ever been to was a Magistrates', never bin to Kynge Arfur's, me. Enough. Best Dave David Bircumshaw Leicester, England Home Page A Chide's Alphabet Painting Without Numbers www.paintstuff.20m.com/index.htm http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erminia Passannanti" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 5:50 PM Subject: Re: Announcement: apologies for cross posting. On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 17:37:14 -0000, david.bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Erminia > >you were a felale hidden behind a busg? > >And, exactly who are they who should be telling me? > >(you see, I can joke too) > >Best > >Dave > > How strange, though...you seemed to have perfectly understood what "felale" and "busg" were signifying: is this because you are the true orthographic corrector? Or because dialogue goes beyond long-sight problems and keyboards? As for my doubts about your ability to blush for modesty... I have lived in honey England long enough to know that when English men blush is only for sexual arouse -ment. For the rest: well.it is all a mannerism: this is what it appears to be: people here learn that to be accepted they have to understate themselves: so here you have the wide range of idioms connected to shyness, nervousness of the others, bashfulness of one's merits. A pose, come on. Matter of fact: English are a very proud people: warriors. But warriors that have learned - because of King Arthur and his courtly manners - to be Manneristic. Oh, yes, you know, here in England - before you open your mouth , you have to suppose that people would - at your words - blush, be terribly embarrassed, resulting in humiliation and resentment. It is all a pose: I do not understand why you do not admit it: matter of fact, you are the proud race. And your faces are made of stone, if not granite.