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> Likewise. And the alternative is mostly for those who have no other choice. > Pre-cisely, Mark. Best Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Weiss" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:33 PM Subject: Re: Postmodern?/more baroque > Likewise. And the alternative is mostly for those who have no other choice. > > At 11:21 PM 9/10/2001 +0100, you wrote: > >> While we're at it, you do, like most of us, suck at the trough of > >bourgeois > >> society. By the way > > > >Yes, Mark, we do. > > > >Altho' I can claim impeccable Brit working class credentials I'm very aware > >too that my relative poverty is wealth by the standards of the Third World > >and as well I have no idea what investments my company pension fund derives > >its returns from. > > > >Mea culpa, altho' I'm very innocent by nature. > > > >Best > > > >Dave > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Mark Weiss" <[log in to unmask]> > >To: <[log in to unmask]> > >Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:59 PM > >Subject: Re: Postmodern?/more baroque > > > > > >> You don't really mean that. Just throw anything at the page? Learn nothing > >> from the practice of one's craft? > >> > >> Of course I could say that any prestructured project reifies hierarchy, > >but > >> that would be pretty dumb. Also tactless and (intellectually) immature. > >> > >> If you don't want to engage an argument just say so. This sort of sidestep > >> just pisses me off. I have a hard time abiding political accusations or > >> fools in silence. Reminds me, I guess, of the endless arguments of my > >> adolescence about who was a better Trotskyist. > >> > >> While we're at it, you do, like most of us, suck at the trough of > >bourgeois > >> society. By the way. > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> At 08:49 PM 9/10/2001 +0100, you wrote: > >> >On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:29:39 -0700, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> > >> >wrote: > >> > > >> >>The links between the > >> >>>poet and the literary/cultural theorist is somehow unavoidable. I > >myself > >> >>>do not believe in spontaneity and I hope that behind each poet there is > >a > >> >>>project not merely a vent of words, an outburst of tears or joy, the > >> >desire > >> >>>to give find expression for one's wrath. > >> >> > >> >>Theorists, some of them poets, will continue to theorize and > >occasionally > >> >>invent isms, but the impact of the link is certainly avoidable if theory > >> >>follows from, is derived from, practice. > >> >> > >> >>Writing spontaneously doesn't mean writing egotistically. Writing with a > >> >>project in mind often does. One is finally only protected from oneself > >by > >> >>tact and maturity. > >> >> > >> >>Mark > >> > > >> >By the way: tact and maturity are no reelvant measures for poetry. > >> >these are good measures for bourgeois society. > >> > > >> >erminia > >> > > >> > > >