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you old charmer, Frank! For trimming I use a steel rule and a craft knife. It's very important not to go too fast, if you intend retaining your present complement of digits. But it means you can judge the offcut by eye, which can often look better than a measured one for some reason. best Randolph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Parker" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:27 AM Subject: Re: Self-publication: pagination > Such ingenious methods! I applaud everyone. > > I'd been able to use a floor-standing power saddle stitcher that will > staple through 100 sheets (or your thumb) and trim on a power-cutter > that'll cut through a ream of paper like butter. That or run chapbooks > through an automatic multi-binder that collates, staples, folds and > trims. Those were the perks of working in a print shop. All the paper > and tools you'd ever want. That is until I went on disability and the > printing trade and I are parting company. It's weird here on the other > side! I had an anxiety attack standing in a store pricing a ream of > paper out of curiosity. > > One thing I can tell you though, check out the dumpster and recycle-bins > behind print shops. I know you'll find lots of useable paper. Strike up > a relationship with a printshop, stop and talk to the guys hanging out > on their breaks. Perhaps they'd do you a favor and quickly trim your > chapbook edges (you could offer to do a little hand-work for them). > Donuts. For donuts they might even spot you a few hundred sheets left > over from a press run. Your best friend can be the bindery dude, but > include the pressmen (keep your politics straight). Oh, yeah, somewhere > along the line you'll chat it up with the owner but the cats in back run > the show where you need it most. Just bring enough donuts for everybody. > > I know I can walk in the back door and work something out with somebody. > The biggest concern in a shop is that whatever you want, it's not going > to take away from their present tasks. It just takes consideration. > > your compadre :) > :fp > > *************** > Frank Parker > [log in to unmask] > http://now.at/frankshome > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Burke" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:40 PM > Subject: Re: Self-publication: pagination > > > > >Also, when doing smaller books without the benefit of a long-handled > stapler > > >I would staple the pages together with an ordinary office stapler > onto a > > >hollow cardboard cylinder (the kind you get for posting or even have > in the > > >kitchen for clingwrap etc). Then lift the booklet carefully off and > close > > >the staples by hand. A trick I learnt from a graphic designer. > > > > > >Cheers, > > >Jill > > > > i stick the staple through into an eraser then take it out, and bend > it in > > manually. > > > > > > andrew > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > Andrew Burke Copywriting > > [log in to unmask] Creative Writing > > http://www.bam.com.au/andrew/ Editing > > ---------------------------------------- > > >