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Sorry for the Hobs-typo, Rob, but re Group status I meant the same as you point out, ELC was the guy with the nice house for them all to meet in, hence the 'host'. Best Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Hamilton" <[log in to unmask]> To: "Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics" <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:07 AM Subject: Re: Re: Beowulf (was Re: HG my name JG my game WS wont same) > > Francis Berry was also deeply admired by G.Wilson Knight, one the oddest > > imaginative loopy and interesting donnish literary critics and > expostulators > > of the just gone century, and too, from a totally different angle, rated > by > > the Group host, Edward Lucie-Smith. > > > > Which means he had fans among both acolytes of John Cowper Powys and > Philip > > Hobsbawn. > > [Hobsbaum -- Eric was the Left (historian) Wing One] > > Dave: > > Two qualifications. > > ELS was (IMHO) secondary to Philip Hobsbaum in The Group. > > And sure as hell, it was PH who turned Lucie-Smith onto Berry. > > Robin > > (drinking his brother's Good Wine) > >