dave,
i'm sorry if i didn't communicate. i thought i was saying something,
and i wasn't aware it was bollocks. should i try to say it some other way?
but never mind.
what would you like to know about who i am and where i come from?
i'm a poet, i come from Auckland, New Zealand, i'm sixty two years old, i'm
a bit cold because its winter here. i am a teacher. i have a sense of humour
which has a way of getting lost in emails. i have a personal life which used
to enter my poetry but not much anymore. i am passionate about poetry. i
think poetry changes the world.
i am also interested in literary politics although i've not benefitted much.
This evening I'm going to listen to Leigh Davis, who gives the third in a
series seven of lecture/readings we (Leigh and myself) who have
organized,which we have called BAD LANGUAGE. Where Poetry Is. The first was
a wonderful reading by Juliana Spahr from Hawaii, and the second was by Ian
Wedde. will that do for now?
wystan
-----Original Message-----
From: david.bircumshaw [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2001 1:19 p.m.
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Apology & Warning
> I am onto you, boy
Okay, that is it.
You are on to what, Wystan?
Tell me who you are, where you come from. All I look for in this or any
other list is talk about something I care about passionately, that is
poetry. I know nothing about literary politics and most definitely am not
its beneficiary.
What does get me annoyed is that because of bollocks like your latest the
noise whiteouts communication. How about that for synaesthetic mixed
metaphor?
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wystan Curnow (FOA ENG)" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: Apology & Warning
> um,David,
> there's no relevance to the Australian % quotient. Matters of
Jordan
> and subsub were raised and described by Candice and responded to by Helen.
I
> think it's game over for you Kent, for David H, Carlo, Candice, Helen,
> Robin, Peter, and you, too and all of you paranoidal androids, you and
your
> mates cunningly programmed by John Kinsella, as you know, a notorious
> Australian, I am onto you, boy, as we all are--Carlo, David, Helen,
Robin,
> Peter, Candice, Doug, Kent, John--or at least most of us, Doug, Pete,
> Lawrence,Elizabeth,Jordan, Jill, Tom, John at least those I am sure of,
but
> finally it won't matter since I've got the plot. i don't need the article.
> we're at that point in the storyline, we have gone from thinking this
could
> go anywhere excitement to knowing this had nowhere else to go, it's out of
> their hands there's nothing anybody can do about it. game over.
> wystan, Peter, uncle tom cobberly, doug, Candice
> Kent, Robin, carlo, Jordan, Jill, Pete, John, Molly, etcera
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: david.bircumshaw [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2001 12:18 p.m.
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Apology & Warning
>
>
> Er, Wystan
>
> I don't understand the relevance of Australian percentage quotients to
this
> issue, nor do I follow why matters of Jordan and subsub belong here,
> remember, a lot of people won't know anything of what you're refering to.
>
> But I do endorse, strongly, Candice's point about the infliction of
> 'performance art'.
>
> And I hate people who play 'games' with others.
>
> Because such an attitude destroys trust, and without that, why bother to
> write?
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wystan Curnow (FOA ENG)" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Apology & Warning
>
>
> > come on, helen,
> > 'trouble makers' that phrase rings alarm bells to me. i was on
> > subsub before i joined poetryetc which was a long time ago. and while
> there
> > are many more australians on poetryetc than there were on subsub
> > you've not noticed any trouble from me have you? please don't identify
> > subsub poetics with Kent, its Jordan i miss, not to mention ...
> > wystan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Helen Hagemann [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2001 10:56 a.m.
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Apology & Warning
> >
> >
> > Candice:
> > If some of the infiltraters from Subsubpoetics list, with the obtuse
> jargon,
> > were to suddenly appear could we please have a list? Personally, this
kind
> > of comedy company has me (& I think many others do) quickly deleting in
> > blocks of rows. You can tell the trouble makers they don't talk about
> > poetry, poetics, or writing etc in any logical, intelligent way. Plus
> > they're boring!
> > We are glad that you will stay and I hope Peter does too. I always enjoy
> > going into his web site.
> > Cheers
> > Helen
> >
> > To Anthony: Absolutely loved 'In the Half Light' - so too, associates,
> > writers and friends. Definitely language driven. I went down into your
> book
> > and read it in 4 nights and came up breathless. How is it going in the
> East?
> > Would make a good film, like the Monkey's Mask. Who says the artist
> > doesn't want to reach the pinnacle?
> >
> >
> > >From: Anthony Lawrence <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry
> and
> > > poetics <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Apology & Warning
> > >Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:40:00 +1100
> > >
> > >on 13/6/01 1:38 AM, Candice Ward at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> > >
> > > > these too are part of the performance and
> > > > will feature in the eventual publication he'll get out of it, no
> doubt.
> > >This
> > > > is what he does, along with getting himself displayed in published
> > > > interviews, for publication.
> > >
> > >Gee, I'll be nailing myself to the publisher's door, in anticipation
> > >of reading this.
> > >
> > >Anthony
> >
> >
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