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 um,David,
       there's no relevance to the Australian % quotient. Matters of Jordan
and subsub were raised and described by Candice and responded to by Helen. I
think it's game over for you Kent, for David H, Carlo, Candice, Helen,
Robin, Peter, and you, too and all of you paranoidal androids, you and your
mates cunningly programmed by John Kinsella, as you know, a notorious
Australian, I am onto you, boy,  as we all are--Carlo, David, Helen, Robin,
Peter, Candice, Doug, Kent, John--or at least most of us, Doug, Pete,
Lawrence,Elizabeth,Jordan, Jill, Tom, John at least those I am sure of, but
finally it won't matter since I've got the plot. i don't need the article.
we're at that point in the storyline, we have gone from thinking this could
go anywhere excitement to knowing this had nowhere else to go, it's out of
their hands there's nothing anybody can do about it. game over.
                wystan, Peter, uncle tom cobberly, doug, Candice
Kent, Robin, carlo, Jordan, Jill, Pete, John, Molly, etcera



-----Original Message-----
From: david.bircumshaw [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2001 12:18 p.m.
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Apology & Warning


Er, Wystan

I don't understand the relevance of Australian percentage quotients to this
issue, nor do I follow why matters of Jordan and subsub belong here,
remember, a lot of people won't know anything of what you're refering to.

But I do endorse, strongly, Candice's point about the infliction of
'performance art'.

And I hate people who play 'games' with others.

Because such an attitude destroys trust, and without that, why bother to
write?

Dave


----- Original Message -----
From: "Wystan Curnow (FOA ENG)" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: Apology & Warning


> come on, helen,
>         'trouble makers' that phrase rings alarm bells to me. i was on
> subsub before i joined poetryetc which was a long time ago. and while
there
> are many more australians on poetryetc than there were on subsub
> you've not noticed any trouble from me have you? please don't identify
> subsub poetics with Kent, its Jordan i miss, not to mention ...
>              wystan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Helen Hagemann [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2001 10:56 a.m.
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Apology & Warning
>
>
> Candice:
> If some of the infiltraters from Subsubpoetics list, with the obtuse
jargon,
> were to suddenly appear could we please have a list? Personally, this kind
> of comedy company has me (& I think many others do) quickly deleting in
> blocks of rows. You can tell the trouble makers they don't talk about
> poetry, poetics, or writing etc in any logical, intelligent way. Plus
> they're boring!
> We are glad that you will stay and I hope Peter does too. I always enjoy
> going into his web site.
> Cheers
> Helen
>
> To Anthony: Absolutely loved 'In the Half Light' - so too, associates,
> writers and friends. Definitely language driven. I went down into your
book
> and read it in 4 nights and came up breathless. How is it going in the
East?
>   Would make a good film, like the Monkey's Mask. Who says the artist
> doesn't want to reach the pinnacle?
>
>
> >From: Anthony Lawrence <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry
and
> >             poetics <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Apology & Warning
> >Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:40:00 +1100
> >
> >on 13/6/01 1:38 AM, Candice Ward at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >
> > > these too are part of the performance and
> > > will feature in the eventual publication he'll get out of it, no
doubt.
> >This
> > > is what he does, along with getting himself displayed in published
> > > interviews, for publication.
> >
> >Gee, I'll be nailing myself to the publisher's door, in anticipation
> >of reading this.
> >
> >Anthony
>
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