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Back with hopefully a few less typos (the flu is making an unwelcome comeback) - but yes Dave the Debrute was purposeful...glad you think my wit was more than a pale watery sun over my wavering horizons... Just to say again that this list is not run by "moderators" but by three list owners. We all have different views and opinions, but I think I can say for all of us that our ideal is a tolerant place, which permits debate and, well, hopefully an interesting conversation. We all know that we fall beneath our ideal at times, but it's survived thus far pretty well intact, despite some interesting imbroglios. What is not countenanced here is personal abuse or bigotry of any kind. Genet son of Genet seemed to me provocative, obscene, outrageous and various other things, but neither abusive nor bigoted. And we're all adults here, aren't we? Alison >On Thursday 20 December 2001 08:13, you wrote: > >> When the "son of genet" posts came through a couple of months ago, >> filled with bizarre, scatological imagery about homosexuality, I >> back-channeled the moderator and objected to --- or expressed my >> astonishment at --- the list's entertained welcome of that sort of >> hate. > >Jeffrey > >I may surprize your rather narrow view of what male homosexuality is >to learn I find your statements not only homophobic but deeply >personally offensive. i am a leather fag, have you not ever heard of >a scat scene? HOW DARE YOU ASSUME I AM HETEROSEXUAL. > >And yes, I have been a teenage sex worker, I have been bashed, I have >been sexually assaulted, I have been a heroin addict. I think it is >you who should apologise! > >Chris Jones. -- Alison Croggon Home page http://www.users.bigpond.com/acroggon/ Masthead http://au.geocities.com/masthead_2/