Good idea, Ittai Bar-Joseph. I have been doing something similar with Fatima Lasay, from Philippiness: I took a poem in Portuguese, translated into English, and she translated into Filipino. Then, she and I made visual and digital poems. The result is something very interesting. I am writing an article about that: collaborative art and poetry, the present way of creating, as Pierre Levy said in his book "Cyberculture" and/or "Qu'est-ce que le virtuel", for example.
In my egroup Webartery, which owner is Jim Andrews, and moderator is Mez, al the times I participate and observe collaborative work. For me it is a kind of intertextuality and hypertextuality, a cross of codes (verbal and non-verbal ones).
Here are some urls in which I participate:
a) with Fatima Lasay - E-M[AG]INERO
http://www.hoydigiteer.org/gegenort/
b) for the Graymatters Previews by J B Daniel (Chicago, USA):
http://members.aol.com/artproject/graymatters/preview/rew3.html
c) with Mez (Mary-Anne Breeze, from Australia): some translation in her collective virtual narrative (unfortunately I was very busy to participate as much I want to):
http://www.radiofreemonterey.org/cgi-bin/websocstory.cgi
d) with Fatima Lasay - very artists and poets from Webartery egroup participated -
Gimokud The Melting Soul - myth and digital midia art - collaborative digital artworks
http://www.hoydigiteer.org/gimokud.html
e) with Fatima Lasay - a teen poem by mine in Portuguese and its different translations in English and Filipino - and several re-readings by Lasay
http://geocities.com/imaginero/poetry
That is all for now. I am very glad that my mistake has become an oportunity to talk with you and to present some kind of collaborative works. And my advisor lady professor Irene de Araujo Machado (I am PhD candidate in the Communication and Semiotics Program at the Pontifical Catholic University of São Paulo, Brazil) would be very pleased with the interchange I have been doing.
Thanks a lot.
©Jorge Luiz Antonio
[log in to unmask]
Arte e poesia digital brasileiras / Brazilian Digital Art and Poetry
http://www.vispo.com/misc/BrazilianDigitalPoetry.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: Ittai Bar-Joseph
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:59 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Convite para exposição Rede de Tensão -Paço das Ar tes ( Casa Blindada - Christianne Alvarenga)
Now, there's a concept for an exhibition:
Choose a word that sounds the same but has a different meaning in two languages, invite artists from the countries who speak the languages (say Brazil/Portugal and Israel in this case) and commission them to make works that relate to the word, but to consider the word's meaning in the other language as well. (Maybe the relationship should be something like foreground and background colors in photoshop, the foreground being the word in your language, background in the other). Could be an interesting, think of the word "Zona" we were blabbering about:
<--Portuguese-region / Hebrew-whore-->
See you,
Ittai.
Jorge Luiz Antonio wrote:
Dear Ittai Bar-Joseph,
Some happened to me to make this mistake: the message was meant to be
sent to my Brazilian egroups. Excuse me. Sorry.
"Zona" in Portuguese is "region" in a general sense, and, in a popular
sense, it can be the place where the whores live.
©Jorge Luiz Antonio
[log in to unmask]
Arte e poesia digital brasileiras / Brazilian Digital Art and Poetry
http://www.vispo.com/misc/BrazilianDigitalPoetry.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ittai Bar-Joseph" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Convite para exposição Rede de Tensão -Paço das Ar tes
(Casa Blindada - Christianne Alvarenga)
> For all us non-spanish readers:
> "Zona" is the Hebrew biblical word for whore (Joshua 2, 1).
> Why do people keep sending attachments?! Haven't we been through this
already?
>
>
> Jorge Luiz Antonio wrote:
>
> > ©Jorge Luiz Antonio
> > [log in to unmask]
> > Arte e poesia digital brasileiras / Brazilian Digital Art and Poetry
> > http://www.vispo.com/misc/BrazilianDigitalPoetry.htm
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Comunicacao e Semiotica" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 2:42 PM
> > Subject: Fwd: Convite para exposição Rede de Tensão -Paço das Ar tes
(Casa
> > Blindada - Christianne Alvarenga)
> >
> > >Subject: Convite para exposição Rede de Tensão -Paço das Ar
> > > tes (Casa Blindada - Christianne Alvarenga)
> > >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:59:54 -0300
> > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> > ----
> >
> > Atenciosamente
> >
> > Secretaria do Programa
> > =======================================================
> > Pós-Graduação em Comunicação e Semiótica
> > http://www.pucsp.br/~cos-puc
> > Rua João Ramalho, 182 - 4º andar
> > 05008-000 - São Paulo - SP
> > Tel.: +55 (11) 3672 8288 / 3672 8906
> > Fax: +55 (11) 3865 1374
> >
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Name: ZONA CRUX APRESENTAÇÃO.doc
> > ZONA CRUX APRESENTAÇÃO.doc Type: Microsoft Word Document
(application/msword)
> > Encoding: base64
> >
> > Name: rede.jpg
> > rede.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg)
> > Encoding: base64
> >
> > Name: zona.jpg
> > zona.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg)
> > Encoding: base64
>
