Caroline is right about the electronic 'part' of a sub attracting VAT. By my calculations CUP seem to be charging VAT on about £93 or 35% of the print and electronic price. The electronic-only price of £298.42 seems to be £253.97 + VAT. Two other points: 1 it has been my understanding that, for invoices originating outside the EU (ie VAT area) for VAT-able services, institutions have to pay VAT by the reverse charge mechanism. There now appears to be a complication (VAT is such a simple matter) in the form of the AOL case; see http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4230942,00.html <http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4230942,00.html> 2 I recently received a (sterling) invoice for Navigator from Swet'wells in Holland with Dutch VAT @19%. It is 'company policy' to bill Navigator from there. Being unable to recoup VAT, I am paying an extra 1.5% as a result. D ********************************************* David Ball Associate Head of Academic Services (University Librarian) Bournemouth University Fern Barrow Poole, Dorset BH12 5BB UK Tel.: +44 (0)1202-595044 Fax.: +44 (0)1202-595475 ********************************************* -----Original Message----- From: Caroline Moss-Gibbons [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 17 September 2001 14:46 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: CUP's VAT on journals Dear All, My understanding of the VAT position is that whilst print is zero-rated, any electronic delivery of the content does indeed attract VAT. Thus a 'print + electronic' subscription would only attract VAT on a percentage of the total price (the publisher would decide how much of it was 'electronic' and how much of the price was for 'print', eg a 20:80 split in favour of print). An 'electronic only' sub would attract VAT on the entire sum, as none of the material would be zero-rated. The rate of VAT will depend on the country in which the journal is published. A UK publisher will have to impose 17.5% on the electronic element of a subscription, but a US publisher would not have to charge any. It is Customs & Excise who decide if something attracts VAT or not, not the publisher/supplier. Perhaps the Association of Subscription Agents (ASA) or the Publishers Association (PA) could bring us all up to date on the present situation, or at least correct any misunderstanding in the above? Best regards, Caroline Moss-Gibbons __________________________________________________ Caroline Moss-Gibbons Manager - Library and Information Services Royal College of Physicians 11 St Andrews Place Regent's Park London NW1 4LE email: [log in to unmask] Tel: 020 7935 1174 x315 Fax: 020 7487 5218 http://www.rcplondon.ac.uk Registered Charity Number 210508 This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you receive this message in error, please notify [log in to unmask] _________________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan McAslan [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: 17 September 2001 12:37 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: CUP's VAT on journals > > We have just recently discovered that Cambridge University Press will be > charging VAT on all their journals that have electronic access. A rouge > invoice came to us rather than our agents and on it it says: "As advised > last year, the electronic part of your subscription (where available) now > attracts VAT at the appropriate rate." I asked CUP when and how > subscribers > had been advised. Their response was that it was stated on last year's > invoices. However, like most institutions we use agents and thus do not > see > publisher's invoices. It seems odd that a publisher which sends out > letters > about new journals and services seems to have decided on a more subtle > route > to inform us of this major change. Has anyone else been iformed, formally, > by CUP, through another route? > As an example I asked CUP about the costs of Genetical Research: > 2001 Print & Electronic = £240 > 2002 Print & Electronic = £268 PLUS VAT on electronic "part" = £284.42 > 2002 Electronic Only = £298.42 > There is no "print only" option. That means a price increase (if my maths > is > right) of about 18.5% for 2002. > > CUP do not seem to be alone on this as Portland Press are also doing it. > Does anyone know of any other publishers who are doing this (I've checked > with Taylor & Francis and they are not)? > > Many thanks > > Jonathan McAslan > Serials Manager > University of Aberdeen > Tel: 01224 272029 > Fax: 01224 487048 > email: [log in to unmask]