the project proposed by daniel frampton, to respond to "the 'thinking' of the films' formal actions (movement, framing, colours, shifts, etc.) . . ." seems of great interest . . . but for many of us there's no way to see how precisely it plays out in practice since we don't have access to these films . . . so i, for one, would like to see daniel -- or other filmosophers, for that matter -- try the same project as self-consciously but applied to other more widely available films . . . might even be worth approaching a film everone already knows to see what happens when it's treated this way mike