I must admit that I am looking at this task not just in the UK, but EEA
wide. For me it isn't just £35, but Guernsey wants £75 (for three years)
etc etc etc etc. I also have to learn to speak Icelandic and many other
languages.
OK, that is tongue in cheek, but what I see is really another, albeit small,
tax on the workplace for no real benefit. This point is a-political. The
various authorities are perfectly capable of prosecuting offenders whether
they have registered or not. The fee is "small enough to pass unnoticed"
and must generate a relatively huge income simply by the volume of
organisations that have to register/notify etc. And this is a repeat
income. And will doubtless rise.
-----Original Message-----
From: Duncan Smith [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:28 PM
To: 'Ian Welton'
Subject: RE: What purpose notification?
Ian,
Glad someone else questions the necessity for this process (see my
earlier msg. in the archives somewhere)
I believe it serves no valuable purpose, other than generating a revenue
for OIC : -)
If a data subject has a question or apprehension about giving details to
a data controller, they will ask them! Navigating their way to
dpr.gov.uk, or worse, a manual copy in a local library (anyone ever seen
one?) will only provide them with the barest minimum of information, and
is an additional step they do not need to take.
If they are not provided with required information from the data
controller at the point of obtaining, the data controller has broken the
law. If they can not be bothered to ask, are they really that concerned.
Let's put some commercial reality on this. If an individual wants my
products and services (be it an Msc in Business Studies or a new car)
the fact that I am Notified has NO bearing whatsoever on their
purchasing decision. This decision is based on things more familiar e.g.
value for money, location, colour sex appeal!
When (if) they exercise their rights, and question my use of their data,
I turn data protection legislation into customer relationship management
and WOW them with how important their information and rights are to me!
Telling them to go away and look up my Notification is not going to win
'hearts and minds'.
And whilst I am on the subject, once again why should 'consultancy and
advisory services' be singled out as having to notify? And does the fact
that this category of data controller appears to have been removed from
the latest Notification Guidance available on-line mean that I can get
my 35 quid back!
There, now I feel better
Duncan S Smith
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-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ian Welton
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 8:11 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: What purpose notification?
Recently I have given to considering the purpose that notification now
serves and the following questions arose:-
Does the current notification requirement properly meet the EU directive
requirements. Is it a step forward to a higher level of compliance as
intended by the legislature, or an unintentional step backwards?
How important are the notification requirements generally perceived now?
How will none notification really be treated in the future?
The notification is a handy document to provide as part of a subject
access response, to identify disclosures, but I query if that fulfils
the real need of the data subject, in that it appears to generic for
that need. Given that notification provides a public register of data
users (where they have
notified) is there any other value to it, or is it in danger of becoming
surplus to needs because many controllers still do not notify?
Ian W.
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