I am new to the list and am puzzled by the messages I have read so far.
I thought data protection was about protecting the individual's integrity
and fundamental right to privacy. Nothing I have read so far seems to have
anything to do with that.
The message that has been discussed may be spam and may be a nuisance, but
does it really threaten anyone's integrity as an individual, or their
fundamental right to privacy? It seems to me more like a run-of-the-mill
consumer protection issue.
Is a sense of proportion(ality)needed?
Ian Harden
14 Bd J S Bach
Strasbourg 67000
France
Tel: +33 388 61 14 46
e-mail: [log in to unmask]
website: http://ian.harden.net
-----Original Message-----
From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection issues
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Dave Wyatt
Sent: 18 July 2001 23:00
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Fw: ?5000. FINE Data Protection Act 1998
Apology missed the attached form which followed the letter. Note it did
charge a fee adding ?50 (but did indicate the mandatory cost). Marketing
technique may be clever but is it illegal?
David Wyatt
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J F Hitches [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 18 July 2001 08:37
> To: Dave Wyatt
> Subject: RE: Fw: ?5000. FINE Data Protection Act 1998
>
>
> Dave
>
> I think you will find that they are charging 85 pounds - of which
> 35 pounds is the registration fee
>
> What is confusing is that the details are below the signature on
> the message where there is more information about contacting them
> and providing them with information.
>
> It may or may not be a scam - in many ways it is no different
> from paying the Post Office 4 pounds to process a passport
> application - however, your points about the competency of the
> organisation to offer good advice are really the key otherwise it
> could just be a way of charging 50 pounds extra to notify!
>
> I wonder what they do the next year with renewals? Another 85
> poounds?
>
> Perhaps we are in the wrong businesses!
>
> John Hitches
>
> Date sent: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 22:06:36 +0100
> Send reply to: Dave Wyatt <[log in to unmask]>
> From: Dave Wyatt <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: RE: Fw: ?5000. FINE Data Protection Act 1998
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> > Im confused. This did not appear to be a scam to me but somebody
> > offering a DPA registration advice service. Letter appears to be
> > simply quoting the Acts requirements and offering a contact point
> > from where consutancy assistance could be found.
> >
> > Such assistance is invaluable to small data controllers given the
> > OIC notification support line is often engaged. If data
> > controllers are ignorant of the Act then they are committing
> > offences and should use consultants to assist training and
> > education.
> >
> > I didn't note it discussed any fees for services. The problem with
> > DPA consultancy services is who sets the minimum competency levels
> > and how are these measured by those who need to use. All such
> > services should be licenced with a body who can assess this
> > possibly the OIC themselves if standards are to be maintained and
> > approved.
> >
> > This service appears to be specialising in the notification
> > aspects of DPA only so appears viable but fees would obviously
> > have to be dependent of type of data controller service was
> > offered to. Notification done properly is a time consuming
> > business.
> >
> > Am I missing something here?
> >
> > David Wyatt
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: This list is for those interested in Data Protection
> > > issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Karen
> > > Blakeman Sent: 16 July 2001 07:49 To:
> > > [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Fw: ?5000. FINE Data
> > > Protection Act 1998
> > >
> > >
> > > An update on this scam:
> > >
> > > BT Internet (from where the emails originated) has been informed
> > > of their activities by several p****d off people, so no doubt
> > > the account will soon be terminated. Their fsmail.net email
> > > address has apparently already been zapped by Freeserve. But the
> > > damage has been done and I am sure enough people, ignorant of
> > > what the Data Protection Act means in practice to them, will be
> > > worried enough to send their GBP 85 cheques to the spammers.
> > >
> > > Manchester Trading Standards Office has been informed (by
> > > several p****d off people).
> > >
> > > And, inevitably, the official Data Protection office has been
> > > informed.
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------
> > > Karen Blakeman, RBA Information Services
> > > 88 Star Road, Caversham, Berks RG4 5BE, UK
> > > Tel:+44 118 947 2256, Mobile: +44 7860 785716
> > > Fax:+44 870 056 8547
> > > Mailto:[log in to unmask]
> > > http://www.rba.co.uk/
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> J F Hitches
> Data Protection Officer and
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